Kirk, That is why I posted what I did. I know there isn't a list of limited synths. If he responds to me, I will certainly direct him towards you. I feel he is one of the leaches. I have seen too much of that kind of thing. Many products sold for access are needlessly high in price. The companies haven't put much back into the system. If his company really wants to help, they can give up a sample to get it supported. I will gladly let the world know his company has done so. If I track him down and they don't I will also let the world know they are leaches. Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net ------------------ Your fly might be open (but don't check it just now).