I have been looking at the thread and nder about what planet some of the people come from. Where did the load of crap about M$ being blind friendly. I saw the IE4 release and they broke everything they had been working on. It took more then 6 months for the screen readers to recover. And they treated two people who worked their like crap. Therse people were moved into the call queue from hell because the phone wasn't accessible. And get this, they had a means of making it accessible. It would only have taken changing the way the phone rings. What a load... Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net ------------------ Your fly might be open (but don't check it just now).