Just thought I would drop a short, 20 page intro to myself. No really, it will be short for those still with me. I am a sighted person with an interest in technology and have many blind friends making such technology a natural extension to my previous interests. Buddy and I have been kicking arround the idea of a PDA like device for blind people. Then I found myself in a discussion with some others on the list and here I am. Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net ------------------ Your fly might be open (but don't check it just now).