I was using telix dialed directly in to the shell account when I had that ability. I think both were set to vt100, but it's probably that dos screen reader that doesn't give proper feedback of where you are. At 09:30 AM 6/30/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Terry, >Comnet is shareware, they ask for $30.00. As a matter of fact I am using >it now, I am logged into a Sparc 20 running Solaris at the moment. I >haven't tried Exceed myself though there is a blind programmer here at >where I work who has had a fair amount of success with that program. >Brent, the way your keys are interpreted when you telnet in, depends on >the terminal emulation you are running. If your telnet program is running >vt100 and your TERM is set to vt100, your arrow keys should behave the >same way if you were sitting at the console. > > Jim > > >On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Klarich, Terry wrote: > >> I like to use exceed. It is a package of various clients (ftp, telnet >> rlogin ...). It is not share ware. Williams puts it on all their issued >> laptops. It has an X server which is some what usable. >> >> The telnet.exe which comes with windows is almost useless. I very much >> agree linux is the way to go. >> >> Where do you get coment? Is it shareware or freeware? >> Terry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jim Wantz [mailto:jwantz at hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov] >> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 2:38 PM >> To: 'speakup at braille.uwo.ca' >> Subject: RE: Hello all >> >> >> Hey Terry, >> The question is: "what telnet program do you use to access your UNIX boxes >> from WINDOWS? I have found that comnet works better than the stock telnet >> that comes with WINDOWS. Unfortunately coment works a little better with >> WINDOW-EYES than with JFW. Of course Linux telnet works the best. >> >> Brent, if you happen to be running the csh or tcsh shells on your isp the >> following is the equivalent of what Terry did with ksh: >> setenv TERM vt100 >> >> Jim >> >> >> On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Klarich, Terry wrote: >> >> > Hey brent: >> > >> > Well, Williams provides me a laptop. On my laptop, I am running (or >> trying >> > to run) windows. I use both jfw and jfd. >> > >> > When my laptop is docked, I have an ethernet connection to all the >> machines >> > I am responsible for. I use telnet from my laptop to connect. >> > >> > When I am in the data center, I use a serial connection directly from my >> > laptop to the console port of the machine I am working on. We do not put >> > keyboards or monitors on our equipment in the data center. In fact, I >> don't >> > know any organization that does. >> > >> > It sounds like you were unable to edit a file properly because your TERM >> > environment variable was not set properly. Generally, you should use >> vt100. >> > With ksh as your shell do: >> > >> > TERM=vt100 >> > export TERM >> > >> > Note, "TERM" is in caps. >> > >> > Terry >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: brent harding [mailto:bharding at greenbaynet.com] >> > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 1:02 PM >> > To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> > Subject: RE: Hello all >> > >> > >> > How do you access these type of systems with speech? Does speakup work on >> > those machines, or how do you edit files on those systems, because dos >> > communications programs don't edit remote files easily. I messed up my >> > shell account on my old provider because the arrow keys actually send >> weird >> > stuff to the file. >> > At 08:53 AM 6/29/00 -0500, you wrote: >> > >Hey Jim: >> > > >> > >Thanks for the note on Bill being the person who built the redhat >> > >installation disks. I plan to upgrade my home machine from 6.0 to 6.2 >> this >> > >weekend by using speakup. (Can't wait)! >> > > >> > >Actually, I am a senior systems analyst for Williams Communications group >> > >(wcg). I primarily design and take care of large sun clusters running >> > >solaris. We have some AIX and hpux equipment as well. >> > > >> > >Like you, I would not even consider installing redhat via ppp. >> > > >> > >Terry >> > > >> > >-----Original Message----- >> > >From: Jim Wantz [mailto:jwantz at hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov] >> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 2:55 PM >> > >To: 'speakup at braille.uwo.ca' >> > >Subject: RE: Hello all >> > > >> > > >> > >Hi Terry, >> > >And I thought I'd been around UNIX for a long time, my first exposure was >> > >with SUN/OS around 1992. By the way, Bill Acker is the ultimate >> authority >> > >on which disk names are what, because he built the Redhat ones. Though >> > >I've been programming in C since about the mid 80s, I know nothing about >> > >kernel hacking or drivers. I sure want to learn though! >> > > >> > > PPP would be a very tough go for installing Linux. I'm not even sure >> I'd >> > >want to try it from my cable modem--but the time required on a 56K >> > >connection would be ridiculous. Go with the CD! >> > > >> > > Jim WB0TFK >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >Speakup mailing list >> > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >Speakup mailing list >> > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >