It soubnds like a bunch of crap designed to help sell home users more software to me. I am not saying that attacks don't happen. I have a friend whos machine was taken over. But the tone of the message was that half our problems would be solved if the "vunerable home users" were not out there. Like I said, load of crap. If the author had paid attention the distributed DOS attacks were based in a couple universities. Of course those machine s could be secured. Then the students wouldn't learn as much contributing to the lack of qualified workers in the field. But hey, that is a small price to pay when someone has a firewall product to sell. And I would love to know why the "numerous" buffer overflow problems in RedHat and Mandrake haven't been published. The authors failed to notice that most of the software for those distibutions is found in many Linux distributions. But hey, they will get a few lucrative leads for their business of taking care of businessis in the "dot com world." -- Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net ------------------ Seek simplicity -- and distrust it. Alfred North Whitehead