I don't know what exim's default behavior is. I had a really hard time getting majordomo to work, because I had to set a user for piped aliases to run under, I chose mail, it seems to work good now. What happens if you set pine to use the isp's server? Then it'll probably fail. My isp doesn't care which way I do it, the mail goes out whether or not I use my system or their system to send mail out, but if I use mine, the from header isn't right because I use a dynamic dns service to map my ip to a name, and it sends from that address. That's the whole business that I'd need something to handle mail when I'm offline so I can use my local delivery in pine, so I don't have to switch smtp servers in tons of locations across the system when I switch providers. At 06:29 PM 6/25/00 -0700, you wrote: >Well, I am not sure what you mean when you say that Sendmail daemon slows >down the system. It certainly doesn't in my case. My Sendmail simply tries >the message and if the connection is not present, itwill try later. I >wouldn't keep my mail for four days waiting to be sent! >Vic > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> >To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 2:44 PM >Subject: Re: Standalone E-Mail > > >> Hi, Victor: >> >> Well, and it makes sense. I guess I just don't see the logic of having a >> mailor like sendmail always active if it can't be doing its job. Only >> slows down system performance. >> >> Besides, it's really cool to be able to write and queu mail while >> off-line. It's useful, for example, if I'm sitting in a conference and >> someone says to me, "Can you send me that in email?" I just do it right >> then. >> >> Janina >> >> >> On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote: >> >> > Hi, Janina! >> > I just wrote the same advice to Brad on another list. What a >coincidence! >> > Regards, >> > Vic >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> >> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >> > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 8:48 AM >> > Subject: Standalone E-Mail >> > >> > >> > > Hi, Brett: >> > > >> > > I just wanted to drop you note about how I handle mail on my notebook >> > > computer. Needless to say, it's off-line a lot. First, it's not my >main >> > > machine when I'm in the office, and it's off-line a lot when I travel >> > > because I'm on a plane, or something. Becides, in places like Europe, >it's >> > > far too expensive to just leave it up online from one's hotel room. >> > > >> > > So, here's what I do. I hope it helps you: >> > > >> > > 1.) I use fetchmail to get all of my incoming mail from my isp after >> > > establishing a ppp connection; >> > > >> > > 2.) Since I use sendmail as my mailor, I then issue the command -- >> > > >> > > sendmail -q0 >> > > >> > > that's send mail dash q zero >> > > >> > > to dump the messages that have been qued for transmittal. >> > > >> > > This works because sendmail is not loaded as a daemon on my system. >It's >> > > only active when I issue the command above, or another specific >sendmail >> > > command. >> > > >> > > This way, I can write all the messages I want in Pine without trouble, >> > > whether or not I'm writing on the airplane, or at my desk in my room, >and >> > > whether or not I'm online when I write them. They're simply qued for >later >> > > transmittal, which is accomplished by the sendmail -q0 command once >I'm >> > > online. >> > > >> > > PS: I've also set the smtp address in my Pine configuration to my isp. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > >> > > Janina Sajka, Director >> > > Information Systems Research & Development >> > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) >> > > >> > > janina at afb.net >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Speakup mailing list >> > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> >> -- >> >> Janina Sajka, Director >> Information Systems Research & Development >> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) >> >> janina at afb.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >