Do any converters exist? I tried searching for rtf in the man pages and came up blank. I just got 8 bit download capability back thanks to slackware and zipspeak! verio was no help in this matter though. It turns out they use mschap and stand-alone and I used another ip-address number for the system in pppsetup and that now works. Lynx shows its normal startup page, and I managed to ftp 4 files in binary mode onto my hard drive and one of them being a zip archive checked it out with linux unzip and that came back with no errors.