Hi Chuck: Are you using isapnp tools on your system or the isapnp option of alsa to find and assign you sound card? Also if you are upgrading from 4.x to 5.7 you need to make some changes in the aliases file. snd_idx=1 moves to snd_idx=0 and all of the snd-pcm1-oss stuff at the bottom move to just pcm, the same but with no 1 attached. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061