You need an nntp server. No way of getting around this. Most IPS's have something like news.isp-domain.net. I have never heard of an ISP which didn't offer news. Terry -----Original Message----- From: brent harding [mailto:bharding@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:26 AM To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca Subject: RE: Hello all What if I have no access to an nntp server? My isp doesn't give me one. I don't think they block ports, but they just don't offer a news server, do I need one to make it work? At 10:46 AM 7/5/00 -0500, you wrote: >On my home machine, I installed c-news. This is a newsfeed program. It >takes care of presenting and removing old articles. For news transport, I >use newsx. It requires no setup on the ISP end. To them, newsx just looks >like another nntp client. There is a HOWTO on setting up a small news leaf >node on metalab > . >Terry > >-----Original Message----- >From: brent harding [mailto:bharding at greenbaynet.com] >Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:00 PM >To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca >Subject: RE: Hello all > > >I usually run ksh on my linux system, when I telnet to my isp now, it says >something like permission denied connection closed, guess they don't offer >shell. They don't offer news groups either. Is there any easy way to get >access to a few news groups in linux without having access to a news >server? Is there news to email services around? >At 03:37 PM 6/29/00 -0400, you wrote: >>Hey Terry, >>The question is: "what telnet program do you use to access your UNIX boxes >>from WINDOWS? I have found that comnet works better than the stock telnet >>that comes with WINDOWS. Unfortunately coment works a little better with >>WINDOW-EYES than with JFW. Of course Linux telnet works the best. >> >>Brent, if you happen to be running the csh or tcsh shells on your isp the >>following is the equivalent of what Terry did with ksh: >>setenv TERM vt100 >> >> Jim >> >> >>On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Klarich, Terry wrote: >> >>> Hey brent: >>> >>> Well, Williams provides me a laptop. On my laptop, I am running (or >trying >>> to run) windows. I use both jfw and jfd. >>> >>> When my laptop is docked, I have an ethernet connection to all the >machines >>> I am responsible for. I use telnet from my laptop to connect. >>> >>> When I am in the data center, I use a serial connection directly from my >>> laptop to the console port of the machine I am working on. We do not put >>> keyboards or monitors on our equipment in the data center. In fact, I >don't >>> know any organization that does. >>> >>> It sounds like you were unable to edit a file properly because your TERM >>> environment variable was not set properly. Generally, you should use >vt100. >>> With ksh as your shell do: >>> >>> TERM=vt100 >>> export TERM >>> >>> Note, "TERM" is in caps. >>> >>> Terry >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: brent harding [mailto:bharding at greenbaynet.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 1:02 PM >>> To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>> Subject: RE: Hello all >>> >>> >>> How do you access these type of systems with speech? Does speakup work on >>> those machines, or how do you edit files on those systems, because dos >>> communications programs don't edit remote files easily. I messed up my >>> shell account on my old provider because the arrow keys actually send >weird >>> stuff to the file. >>> At 08:53 AM 6/29/00 -0500, you wrote: >>> >Hey Jim: >>> > >>> >Thanks for the note on Bill being the person who built the redhat >>> >installation disks. I plan to upgrade my home machine from 6.0 to 6.2 >this >>> >weekend by using speakup. (Can't wait)! >>> > >>> >Actually, I am a senior systems analyst for Williams Communications >group >>> >(wcg). I primarily design and take care of large sun clusters running >>> >solaris. We have some AIX and hpux equipment as well. >>> > >>> >Like you, I would not even consider installing redhat via ppp. >>> > >>> >Terry >>> > >>> >-----Original Message----- >>> >From: Jim Wantz [mailto:jwantz at hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov] >>> >Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 2:55 PM >>> >To: 'speakup at braille.uwo.ca' >>> >Subject: RE: Hello all >>> > >>> > >>> >Hi Terry, >>> >And I thought I'd been around UNIX for a long time, my first exposure >was >>> >with SUN/OS around 1992. By the way, Bill Acker is the ultimate >authority >>> >on which disk names are what, because he built the Redhat ones. Though >>> >I've been programming in C since about the mid 80s, I know nothing about >>> >kernel hacking or drivers. I sure want to learn though! >>> > >>> > PPP would be a very tough go for installing Linux. I'm not even sure >I'd >>> >want to try it from my cable modem--but the time required on a 56K >>> >connection would be ridiculous. Go with the CD! >>> > >>> > Jim WB0TFK >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> >Speakup mailing list >>> >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> > >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> >Speakup mailing list >>> >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Speakup mailing list >>Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
