Some appologies for wasting everybody's time. I only do that on purpose with spammers. After reading all the rest of the messages regarding realplayer7, etc, maybe I should refrase my question. What do I need to do on the realnetworks site to get the correct player that will work with the latest trplayer? Actually, I have a more immediate problem in that I haven't yet finished configuring the Linux system I use for sound, but the lack of anything much to do was one of the reasons for my procrastination. Now, it looks like I really can do something neat so I had better get going. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Data Communications Group