The reason they look like garbage is because linux or unix files don't have cr/lf pairs like DOS files do; they just have lf to end the line. What I do myself, is to import the file into my bns, search for control j, and replace every instance of that with control m control j. Then, either I would read the file in the bns, or upload it back to the PC. Since I got tired of doing this, and since I couldn't find a conversion program for it on the net, I'm in the process of writing a program to convert between DOS, unix and MAC files. Greg Nowak ----- Original Message ----- From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [pac at fortuitous.com: [NTLUG:Discuss] Fortuitous Technologies Releases Linux Training Manuals Under GPL.\] > is there a way that these can be viewed in a dos editor or a windows > equivalent? they open fine in windows but are full of rubbish. > Thanks! > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >