I don't remember anyone saying Viavoice was manditory, but it would be a nice addition. After all there are plenty of MS Windows users that are wanting to migrate and look at Linux who don't have hardware synths like a Dectalk Express. Many of those use Jaws 3.7, Window Eyes 4.0, or another Windows based screen reader which has Viavoice Outloud for Windows packaged in. So having a loadible module in a speakup kernal for Viavoice Outloud for Linux makes sense. As for Festival I personally don't care for it, but that is a personal decision. I would rather use Viavoice if I had to use software speech on a laptop, or setup a Linux machine for someone who doesn't have a hhardware synth. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ameer Armaly <therock2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 6:06 PM Subject: Re: Speakup and ViaVoice. > Hello people, since when is viavoice manditory? > Why not something like dectalk or festival. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Ward" <tward at bright.net> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: Speakup and ViaVoice. > > > > Hello, Bryan and others. Certainly points are well made that Viavoice is > > memory, processor, and system entensive. However, long term is proving to > > double and triple in CPU output. > > Naturally, I use a Dectalk Express, and love using it under Linux. > However, > > while taking my laptop out carying around a $1200 synth is a bit crazy, > and > > always takes time setting up. > > How I see this is that someone would use a hardware synth to setup there > > Linux Distro, enable the sound card, and then compile software speech > > support. > > I am not suggesting that this should be something that needs to be done > > right away. Merely something to think about. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Brian Borowski <brianb at braille.uwo.ca> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 7:46 AM > > Subject: Speakup and ViaVoice. > > > > > > > There's been a thread about speakup and ViaVoice and writing the code to > > > make this work. I wanted to point out a few things about this idea, > that > > > are going to have to be worked out. > > > > > > * ViaVoice is a software synthesizer and the kernel has to be running, > > > and most of the other parts of linux have to be operational before > > > anything can be done with a software synthesizer, unless it gets totally > > > built into the kernel; that could make a kernel huge, and would also > > > require that sound card stuff (there are very many sound cards out > there), > > > be loaded into the kernel as well. > > > > > > * You would miss the real-time boot-up stuff from the kernel, a very > > > important feature, in my opinion, especially when trying to figure out > > > what is going on when something is not working as it should be, or when > > > you're trying to build a kernel and something isn't quite working write. > > > You could make use of the kernel message buffer to have the software > > > synthesizer speak the startup messages after the fact, but if there was > a > > > failure during bootup; you would never get the opportunity to hear > > > anything at all, because you'd never get the speech started up. > > > > > > * Then, finally, there's another thing, the kernel is open source, > > > speakup is open source, the information is available for the software > > > synthesizer API, and perhaps, with some imagination, someone can figure > > > out a solution for the above two points. If someone really wants this > > > badly enough, why can't they put some effort into coding for this > project. > > > > > > There's more than enough work with the normal speakup development to > keep > > > a few Kirks busy, without even worrying about ViaVoice, so I suspect, > that > > > this is one of those projects that someone else will have to do. If > > > there's no one else to do it; it probably won't get done for a very long > > > time. > > > > > > Brian Borowski > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >