Hi Bruce: Don't worry man, this is fine, we will get to the bottom of it somehow. Can I ask, what did you download the images with? If it's not working then we have to try and iliminate all possible causes. I presume from your messages that you haven't got anyone who can read out what's on the screen when this fails. Is it possible to find out how far the boot is going? Geoff. -- Geoff Shang <gshang10 at scu.edu.au> ICQ number 43634701