Hi Chuck: Boy, you are full of questions this afternoon! First of all, although the version number doesn't change, there is a date field just to the right of the version number which should show the date and time of the current cvs version. The actual version number won't change until I release v-0.10. If you are going to stay with the cvs code then yu are perfectly welcome to rm your old speakup tar ball tree. 'grin' As far as the /lib/modules subtrees go, if you are not using the old kernel as a backup kernel then yes you can rm the old modules trees as well. That something that gets overlooked by most folks when changing kernels. If you do have a vmlinuz.old or whatever which is an older kernel then it wouldn't be wise to remove that tree cause if you need it you may be in trouble. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061