Thanks for the info on the inbox path in pine. I may try that to see if it works before I really need it. In my case, when the problem occurs, it might be a message in the middle of a list of messages that hangs, then my connection times out, and repeating the attempt always hangs on the same message in the same place. But it is very very rare - maybe once every few months at most. I think we have different problems actually. Good luck. Chuck My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh Laugh at your problems: everybody else does.