hi kirk, could i please take the liberty to ask you a favour? i have no kernel compiling experience and no speech; i don't fancy compiling a kernel without speech or anyone who knows what they are doing! I am currently using slackware 7.0, could you please just send me the generic kernel (i installed using base.i), for slackware 7 and the apollo 2. i also have an apollo 1 if you want me to test this at a later date. also, when will the site and archive be updated to reflect the new drivers? will the version number go up from 0.08 as a result of the new bns and apollo drivers? sorry, i know little about the speakup project and need to do some learning, so if you lot could help me along the way i would be greatful. regards, saqib shaikh