Hi Kirk, I'm not sure I remember what distro Chris is running, but the man page for initscr() in ncurses in Redhat 6.1 is curs_initscr. I am having trouble rebuilding my kernel after I did a complete re-install. When I do a command like make clean I'm getting a message like: "no rules found". I suppose there are some pieces missing, but I haven't figured out what. When I tried to apply the patch I all the hunks were missing! What a mess. Bill, I may be calling you tonight if I can't figure out what is going on. Jim WB0TFK