On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 05:35:31AM -0700, Luis Chamberlain wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 09:07:03AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 02:18:28PM -0700, Luis Chamberlain wrote: > > > > Looks test_sysfs isn't in linus tree, where can I find it? > > > > > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mcgrof/linux-next.git/log/?h=20210927-sysfs-generic-deadlock-fix > > > > > > To reproduce the deadlock revert the patch in this thread and then run > > > either of these two tests as root: > > > > > > ./tools/testing/selftests/sysfs/sysfs.sh -w 0027 > > > ./tools/testing/selftests/sysfs/sysfs.sh -w 0028 > > > > > > You will need to enable the test_sysfs driver. > > > > Can you share the code which waits for the sysfs / kernfs files to be > > > > stop being used? > > > > > > How about a call trace of the two tasks which deadlock, here is one of > > > running test 0027: > > > > > > kdevops login: [ 363.875459] INFO: task sysfs.sh:1271 blocked for more > > > than 120 seconds. > > <-- snip --> > > > That doesn't show the deadlock is related with module_exit(). > > Not directly no. Then the patch title of 'sysfs: fix deadlock race with module removal' is wrong. > > > It is clearly one AA deadlock, what I meant was that it isn't related with > > module exit cause lock & device_del() isn't always done in module exit, so > > I doubt your fix with grabbing module refcnt is good or generic enough. > > A device_del() *can* happen in other areas other than module exit sure, > but the issue is if a shared lock is used *before* device_del() and also > used on a sysfs op. Typically this can happen on module exit, and the > other common use case in my experience is on sysfs ops, such is the case > with the zram driver. Both cases are covered then by this fix. Again, can you share the related zram code about the issue? In zram_drv.c of linus or next tree, I don't see any lock is held before calling del_gendisk(). > > If there are other areas, that is still driver specific, but of the > things we *can* generalize, definitely module exit is a common path. > > > Except for your cooked test_sys module, how many real drivers do suffer the > > problem? What are they? > > I only really seriously considered trying to generalize this after it IMO your generalization isn't good or correct because this kind of issue is _not_ related with module exit at all. What matters is just that one lock is held before calling device_del(), meantime the same lock is required in the device's attribute show/store function(). There are many cases in which we call device_del() not from module_exit(), such as scsi scan, scsi sysfs store(), or even handling event from device side, nvme error handling, usb hotplug, ... > was hinted to me live patching was also affected, and so clearly > something generic was desirable. It might be just the only two drivers(zram and live patch) with this bug, and it is one simply AA bug in driver. Not mention I don't see such usage in zram_drv.c. > > There may be other drivers for sure, but a hunt for that with semantics > would require a bit complex coccinelle patch with iteration support. > > > Why can't we fix the exact driver? > > You can try, the way the lock is used in zram is correct, specially What is the lock in zram? Again can you share the related functions? > after my other fix in this series which addresses another unrelated bug > with cpu hotplug multistate support. So we then can proceed to either > take the position to say: "Thou shalt not use a shared lock on module > exit and a sysfs op" and try to fix all places, or we generalize a fix > for this. A generic fix seems more desirable. What matters is that the lock is held before calling device_del() instead of being held in module_exit(). Thanks, Ming