On Tuesday 02 September 2014 12:38:23 Rob Herring wrote: > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 September 2014 08:20:53 Rob Herring wrote: > >> >> > >> >> This alone is not okay. There is no such implementation of hardware. > >> > > >> > But the SBSA explicitly allows this. I don't know of any vendor who just > >> > implements the subset, but I've been told that this has been asked for. > >> > >> To use baudrate as an example, that must be configurable somehow > >> either with pl011 registers or in a vendor specific way. I suppose you > >> could do an actual implementation with all those things hardcoded in > >> the design, but that seems unlikely. > > > > Why does the baudrate need to be configurable? I think it's completely > > reasonable to specify a console port that has a fixed (as in the > > OS must not care) rate, and that can be implemented either as a UART > > with a programmable rate or as a set of registers that directly talks > > to a remote system management device over whatever hardware protocol > > they choose. > > Sure. It is also completely reasonable that baudrate is configurable > and vendors can implement it however they choose since the SBSA does > not specify it. IIRC, the enabling and disabling bits are not > specified either. > > Not having configurability is simply one variation on possible > implementations. It's not obvious to me though that we are served better by a pl011 driver that allows any possible subset of the features, rather than having the existing driver for pl011, and a new driver for the sbsa subset, which then won't allow any of the optional features. Yes, there is some duplication, but a driver for this kind of dumb console port should be doable in very little code, at least less than the proposed implementation. Arnd -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-serial" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html