Hi, I see there's been a bit of recent turmoil in the area of serial console, no_console_suspend, and suspend/resume: commit 891b9dd10764352926e1e107756aa229dfa2c210 Author: Jason Wang <jason77.wang@xxxxxxxxx> serial-core: restore termios settings when resume console ports commit ca2e71aa8cfb0056ce720f3fd53f59f5fac4a3e1 Author: Jason Wang <jason77.wang@xxxxxxxxx> serial-core: skip call set_termios/console_start when no_console_suspend commit 3f582b8c11014e4ce310d9839fb335164195333f Author: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> serial: fix termios settings in open commit 4547be7809a3b775ce750ec7f8b5748954741523 Author: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@xxxxxxx> serial-core: resume serial hardware with no_console_suspend OLPC runs with "console=ttyS0,115200 no_console_suspend" parameters in order to receive all kernel messages, including the suspend/resume ones. A userspace-level getty and terminal is also run on this console. For the XO-1.5 laptop (x86, VIA-based) there was some breakage around 2.6.35 but this is now working in linus master - thanks. The XO-1 has always been trickier here and OLPC have applied some downstream-only hacks once or twice in the past. But now I'd like to get things working properly upstream. As of linus master as of today on XO-1, the serial console after resume is unusable, printing garbage. It looks like when we do go into suspend, the power to the 8250 chip is cut, so it gets reset at hardware level. This suggests that we do indeed need to restore register state during resume, even though we never suspended it. It looks like Stanislav works with machines with a similar requirement, which I guess suffer the same problem in Linus master: commit 4547be7809a3b775ce750ec7f8b5748954741523 Author: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@xxxxxxx> serial-core: resume serial hardware with no_console_suspend Perform a tricky suspend/resume even with no_console_suspend. With no_console_suspend, kernel skips serial port suspend/resume and the serial hardware may remain in undefined state after resume. It actually happens on devices that don't have BIOS that handle serial initialization. It makes impossible to use serial console after resume. Devices affected by this problem include: Sharp Zaurus devices Several PXA based ARM embedded boards What's the right way to go around solving this, that doesn't step on anyones toes? >From an ignorant high-level perspective, it doesn't sound unreasonable or complicated to simply unconditionally restore the correct port configuration on resume. I'm having trouble understanding the argument against this perspective presented in commit 891b9dd10. Thanks, Daniel -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-serial" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html