On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 11:15 -0600, Mike Miller wrote: > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 04:42:02PM -0800, James Bottomley wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-11-08 at 09:31 -0600, scameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 04:02:20PM +0100, Tomas Henzl wrote: > > > > On 11/08/2013 03:44 PM, scameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 02:51:37PM +0100, Tomas Henzl wrote: > > > > >> On 11/07/2013 05:45 PM, Stephen M. Cameron wrote: > > > > >>> From: Stephen M. Cameron <scameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The hardware guys tell us that after initiating a software > > > > >>> reset via the doorbell register we need to wait 5 seconds before > > > > >>> attempting to talk to the board *at all*. This means that we > > > > >>> cannot watch the board to verify it transitions from "ready" to > > > > >>> to "not ready" then back "ready", since this transition will > > > > >>> most likely happen during those 5 seconds (though we can still > > > > >>> verify the reset happens by watching the "driver version" field > > > > >>> get cleared.) > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Signed-off-by: Stephen M. Cameron <scameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >>> --- > > > > >>> drivers/scsi/hpsa.c | 32 +++++++++++++++++++++++--------- > > > > >>> 1 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-) > > > > >>> > > > > >>> diff --git a/drivers/scsi/hpsa.c b/drivers/scsi/hpsa.c > > > > >>> index 20fc598..fff5fd3 100644 > > > > >>> --- a/drivers/scsi/hpsa.c > > > > >>> +++ b/drivers/scsi/hpsa.c > > > > >>> @@ -3781,6 +3781,13 @@ static int hpsa_controller_hard_reset(struct pci_dev *pdev, > > > > >>> */ > > > > >>> dev_info(&pdev->dev, "using doorbell to reset controller\n"); > > > > >>> writel(use_doorbell, vaddr + SA5_DOORBELL); > > > > >>> + > > > > >>> + /* PMC hardware guys tell us we need a 5 second delay after > > > > >>> + * doorbell reset and before any attempt to talk to the board > > > > >>> + * at all to ensure that this actually works and doesn't fall > > > > >>> + * over in some weird corner cases. > > > > >>> + */ > > > > >>> + msleep(5000); > > > > >>> } else { /* Try to do it the PCI power state way */ > > > > >>> > > > > >>> /* Quoting from the Open CISS Specification: "The Power > > > > >>> @@ -3977,15 +3984,22 @@ static int hpsa_kdump_hard_reset_controller(struct pci_dev *pdev) > > > > >>> need a little pause here */ > > > > >>> msleep(HPSA_POST_RESET_PAUSE_MSECS); > > > > >> I know it's complicated with a lot of different devices and fw versions, > > > > >> but here^ we wait for 3sec - isn't the method - wait for 3s then wait for board not ready > > > > >> a bit fragile, what if a board comes up faster? > > > > >> When the method "watching the "driver version"" works why don't you want to use it > > > > >> regardless of the reset method used? > > > > > The "watching the driver version" thing is only there to catch if > > > > > the firmware guys break things and turn the reset into a no-op > > > > > (which happened with the PCI power manaegment based reset and we > > > > > didn't catch it for a year or so because we didn't have that check) > > > > > > > > > > We aren't supposed to look at the driver version field (or anything) > > > > > until we first verify the scratch pad register says the firmware is > > > > > ready. In the case of those boards that use the "doorbell" reset, > > > > > we aren't supposed to look at *anything* for the first five seconds. > > > > > > > > > > I have been bugging the firmware/hardware guys for a sane reset > > > > > procedure that actually works reliably for years with no luck. > > > > > > > > > > For the SCSI over PCIe driver, being tired of this crap, I simply > > > > > unconditionally reset the device on driver load every single time, > > > > > and did this from the beginning. This kind of forced the firmware > > > > > and hardware guys to make the reset on that thing work reliably > > > > > and quickly, and since I did that from the earliest days, they didn't > > > > > have a chance to screw it up without it being caught immediately. > > > > > For Smart Array, obviously it's too late for that approach. > > > > > > > > OK, my question was more or less if this: > > > > msleep(HPSA_POST_RESET_PAUSE_MSECS); > > > > just before waiting for the board to enter BOARD_NOT_READY state > > > > isn't dangerous - when the board enters a ready state in the first 3sec > > > > it will wait indefinitely for the not_ready state > > > > thus whether the test for not ready state shouldn't be removed. > > > > The mechanism now works somehow and maybe it's better > > > > not to touch it, I just wanted to draw your attention to that > > > > potential problem. > > > > > > Oh ok, I see. Thanks, yes that does look questionable. So you > > > are suggesting to skip the check for transition from NOT READY to > > > READY in the scratch pad register in all cases, since we have all > > > these ridiculous delay requirements preventing us from watching the > > > board closely enough and so that may mean that we would miss such a > > > transition. > > > > > > Let me talk it over with Mike Miller, but it seems reasonable. > > > > Is there a resolution on this? It's holding up the patch series. > > > > James > > > James, > Let's omit the check for board ready/not ready. With these arbitrary delays > already in place we're likely to miss the transition. > > Do you need me to resubmit the patch set? No; you want 1-2;4-11 of the current one ... I can do that. James -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html