On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:54:39PM -0400, Douglas Gilbert wrote:
> On 13-09-27 10:41 AM, scameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 04:01:30PM +0200, Tomas Henzl wrote:
> >>On 09/27/2013 03:34 PM, scameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>>On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 03:22:19PM +0200, Tomas Henzl wrote:
> >>>>On 09/23/2013 08:34 PM, Stephen M. Cameron wrote:
> >>>>>From: Stephen M. Cameron <scameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>SCSI mid layer doesn't seem to handle logical drives undergoing format
> >>>>>very well. scsi_add_device on such devices seems to result in hitting
> >>>>>those devices with a TUR at a rate of 3Hz for awhile, transitioning
> >>>>>to hitting them with a READ(10) at a much higher rate indefinitely,
> >>>>>and at boot time, this prevents the system from coming up. If we
> >>>>>do not expose such devices to the kernel, it isn't bothered by them.
> >>>>Is the result of this patch that the drive is no more visible for the
> >>>>user
> >>>>and he can't follow the formatting progress?
> >>>Yes (subsequent patch monitors the progress and brings the drive
> >>>online when it's ready).
> >>>
> >>>>I think a better option is to fix the kernel to handle formatting
> >>>>devices better
> >>>Yeah, you're probably right. (This is what comes of writing code for all
> >>>the distros then forward porting to kernel.org code.
> >>>Grumble-grumble-management
> >>>grumble-grumble real-world problems.)
> >>>
> >>>>or harden the hpsa so it can cope with TURs or reads (ignore) from a
> >>>>formatting
> >>>>device.
> >>>I don't think hpsa driver had any problem with the TURs or READs though,
> >>>they would be returned to the mid layer just fine (TUR returned sense
> >>>data
> >>>indicating not ready, format in progress, I forget what the reads
> >>>returned, whatever the firmware filled in for the sense data, which
> >>>was reasonable), but the mid-layer was relentless and just never
> >>>really proceeded, iirc.
> >>>
> >>>Since we were trying to make this work on existing OSes where fixing the
> >>>SCSI mid layer wasn't an option, we came up with this.
> >>
> >>I'm actually glad that you care about existing OSes :)
> >
> >And the pain of porting would be much the same regardless of
> >whether the port is forward or backward, I suppose.
> >
> >>
> >>Do you know whether the midlayer has similar problems with other drivers?
> >
> >No, not sure. One thing that's a bit unusual about hpsa is it uses
> >the scan_start and scan_finished members of scsi_host_template, so hpsa
> >does its own scanning, rather than let the midlayer do the scanning which
> >is due to Smart Array's weirdness around the vicinity of SCSI_REPORT_LUNS.
> >
> >I suspect that a lld driver calling scsi_add_device() on something which
> >is NOT READY/FORMAT IN PROGRESS is what provokes the trouble. Most drivers
> >do not call scsi_add_device() directly at all, so it's quite possible most
> >drivers do not experience such a problem. A few do call scsi_add_device()
> >directly, like ipr or pmcraid, so these might conceivably have a similar
> >problem.
> >
> >We ran into this problem with what we call "Rapid Parity Initialization",
> >which
> >is what you get when the RAID controller leaves the logical volume in a NOT
> >READY/FORMAT IN PROGRESS state and devotes itself entirely to initializing
> >parity data and when that's done, then the volume starts acting normally.
> >
> >Initializing the parity data can take quite a long time (hours), but not as
> >long as initializing it on the fly under load, which, with very large,
> >relatively slow drives can take nigh on forever, hence the "rapid" parity
> >initialization moniker. So, if those other RAID controllers don't have a
> >similar feature that produces a relatively long lived NOT READY/FORMAT IN
> >PROGRESS state, they may not bump into the problem.
>
> {0x04,0x04,"Logical unit not ready, format in progress"},
> {0x04,0x05,"Logical unit not ready, rebuild in progress"},
> {0x04,0x06,"Logical unit not ready, recalculation in progress"},
> {0x04,0x07,"Logical unit not ready, operation in progress"},
> ...
> {0x04,0x1b,"Logical unit not ready, sanitize in progress"},
>
> Wouldn't perhaps 0x4,0x5 be more accurate? If someone managed to
> send a FORMAT UNIT or SANITIZE to a physical drive behind your LV,
> that would be a completely different issue.
Perhaps, but 0x04/0x04 is what the firmware returns in this instance.
-- steve
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