Il 11/09/2012 18:59, Tejun Heo ha scritto: > FWIW, I don't think this is the right way to expose functionality > which needs management in terms of access control, interpretation > (stacking drivers) and serving concurrent users. SG_IO filtering was > mostly for cd/dvd burning and other removeable devices. Understood; unfortunately, there is another major user of it (virtualization). If you are passing "raw" LUNs down to a virtual machine, there's no possibility at all to use a properly encapsulated interface and still be able to pass sense data etc. back to the virtual machine. And it's only going to grow now that people are starting to use virtio-scsi. The set of use cases is so variable that no single filter can accomodate all of them: high availability people want persistent reservations, NAS people want trim/discard, but these are just two groups. Someone is using a Windows VM to run vendor tools and wants to have access to vendor-specific commands. You can tell this last group to use root, but not everyone else who is already relying on Unix permissions, SELinux and/or device cgroups to confine their virtual machines. A generic filter (see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1312326 for a proposal) would be satisfactory for everyone, but it's also a major undertaking and so far I've not received a single comment about it. > So, it wouldn't be a good idea to abuse SG_IO filtering for exposing > trim/discard. It's something which should be retired or at least > severely restricted in time. I don't think we want to be developing > new uses of it. > > I think trim/discards are fairly easy to abstract and common enough to > justify having properly abstracted interface. In fact, we already > have block layer interface for it - BLKDISCARD. If it's lacking, > let's improve that. I do want to improve the block layer interfaces to avoid that people use SG_IO. But unfortunately this is for a completely different use case. Paolo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html