On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 02:44:37PM -0700, Williams, Dan J wrote: > On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 02:06:50PM -0700, Williams, Dan J wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 01:41:06PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > >> >> In scsi at least two cases of the parent device being deleted before the > >> >> child is added have been observed. > >> >> > >> >> 1/ scsi is performing async scans and the device is removed prior to the > >> >> async can thread running (can happen with an in-opportune / unlikely > >> >> unplug during initial scan). > >> > > >> > That sounds like a bug in the scsi code, doesn't it? > >> > > >> >> 2/ libsas discovery event running after the parent port has been torn > >> >> down (this is a bug in libsas). > >> > > >> > Is this fixed somewhere? > >> > >> Yes, these two issues have pending fixes that are posted to linux-scsi: > >> > >> http://marc.info/?l=linux-scsi&m=133239707903443&w=2 > >> http://marc.info/?l=linux-scsi&m=133239709603452&w=2 > >> > >> > I don't want to paper over bugs like this by changing the sysfs core. > >> > We went through this a lot years ago when scsi changed to use the driver > >> > core, and I thought we had fixed all of these types of errors properly. > >> > >> Hotplug lifetime rules are still transport specific. So in this case > >> scsi-core is innocent these are bugs from libsas and > >> scsi_transport_sas. > > > > Ok, thanks for the explaination. > > > >> > So, any chance to fix these properly as well? > >> > >> This patch doesn't really paper over anything. It turns a NULL > >> pointer crash into an explicit warning from kobject_add_internal. For > >> the libsas/scsi case this device_add() failure is still fatal. > >> Regardless of whether sysfs changes the above two fixes are still > >> required. > >> > >> Since the -EEXIST case is just a KERN_ERR and not a BUG_ON I figured > >> it was worthwhile to post a patch to do the same for this 'parent > >> deleted' case. But if crashing is the expectation then this patch can > >> be dropped. > > > > No, crashing is not the expectation :) > > I thought not, but sometimes the kernel likes to teach people that > bollix an api a hard lesson :). > > > > > But, without that crash, would the above fixes ever have been noticed > > and fixed? The device_add() most likely would have quietly failed and > > no one would have been the wiser. > > > > Or would something else have caused this to be an obvious problem? > > > > We still have the big red flag dump_stack() in kobject_add_internal() > (which patch 2 turns into a real WARN()), and for scsi our hotplug > tests still crash later on because libsas makes assumptions about the > device path. I understand the paranoia here, "check for NULL" is > usually a band-aid, but in this case this is just a softer > introduction to a debug session. No less vocal than before as far as > I can see. Ok, that's reasonable, I'll queue this up for 3.5. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html