On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 09:22 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 06:12:14PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 17:39, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 16:49, James Bottomley > > > > >> So this is subsystem specific. For the case of a SCSI enclosure, I can > > >> answer that it's actually burned into the enclosure firmware. When you > > >> build an enclosure with labels, the label names are stored in a > > >> diagnostic page. We can actually interrogate the enclosure directly or > > >> use the ses driver to get these names mapped to current devices. > > > > > > To me this sounds like a nice name on top of the current bunch of > > > names, not like a 'preferred' name. > > > > > > I still don't like to introduce any new facility to the kernel that > > > can handle only one single name. Reality the last years has taught us > > > a very different story, and we've walked a long way to get where we > > > are. I really don't believe single names will ever work, it's just a > > > nice theory. > > > > I might need to clarify this a bit. > > > > I have no problem in general to add a 'alias' to every disk, and use > > that when stuff is logged. Just the same way the netifs have an alias. > > Sure, it might be useful for some use cases. And if that helps to > > solve any real problem, we should just do it. > > > > I just want to make clear, that I don't think that it is anywhere near > > to a solution for the problems which are described here. And that > > nobody should see this as an excuse not to get their stuff together > > and work on the problem, which is that we don't have machine-readable > > error and debug from the kernel and a smart syslog. > > > > If we had that, I'm very sure nobody would even ask for a 'pretty > > name' in the kernel, and I think that is a good indication that we are > > not on the right track here. > > And I totally agree here, which is why I don't want to accept this > change to the driver core to add this, as it's not the correct solution. OK, fine ... we'll do it as gendisk only then. I suppose that is the 95% use case anyway. Thanks, James -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html