Re: [PATCHSET v3.1 0/7] data integrity: Stabilize pages during writeback for various fses

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On Tue 10-05-11 22:52:10, OGAWA Hirofumi wrote:
> Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:59:15AM +0900, OGAWA Hirofumi wrote:
> >> I'd like to know those patches are on what state. Waiting in writeback
> >> page makes slower, like you mentioned it (I guess it would more
> >> noticeable if device was slower that like FAT uses). And I think
> >> currently it doesn't help anything others for blk-integrity stuff
> >> (without other technic, it doesn't help FS consistency)?
> >
> > It only makes things slower if we rewrite a region in a file that is
> > currently undergoing writeback. I'd be interested to know about real
> > life applications doing that, and if they really are badly affect we
> > should help them to work around that in userspace, e.g. by adding a
> > fadvice will rewrite call that might be used to never write back that
> > regions without an explicit fsync call.
> 
> Isn't it reallocated blocks too, and metadata too?
  Reallocated blocks - not really. For a block to be freed it cannot be
under writeback and when it's freed no writeback is started. For metadata -
yes. But ext3, ext4, xfs, btrfs have to avoid modifying metadata under
writeback anyway (because of journalling / COW constraints) and thus they
don't care. For ext2 or vfat it's a different story. But as I wrote to
Darrick, I'm not sure about vfat but for ext2 and similar legacy
filesystems, I'd rather let them live with their unstable pages under IO ;)
because I see a limited use for that.

								Honza
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Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxx>
SUSE Labs, CR
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