Re: [Scst-devel] [PATCHv4 0/19]: New SCSI target framework (SCST) with dev handlers and 2 target drivers

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Hi All,

Small Tree would very much like to see the SCST framework included in the mainline kernel.  It's used in one of the products we've been working on as well as in some products we sell.  It seems reliable and the performance seems good.  Having it in the mainline kernel would save us a great deal of headache.

Steve

On Oct 1, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Please review the next iteration of the patch set of the new (although,
> in fact, the oldest) SCSI target framework for Linux SCST with a set of
> dev handlers and 3 target drivers: for local access (scst_local), for
> Infiniband SRP (srpt) and IBM POWER Virtual SCSI .
> 
> SCST is the most advanced and features rich SCSI target subsystem for
> Linux. It allows to build the fastest devices and clusters delivering
> millions of IOPS. Many companies are using it as a foundation for their
> storage products and solutions. List of some of them you can find on
> http://scst.sourceforge.net/users.html. There are also many other who
> not yet added there or prefer for some reasons to not be listed on this
> page.
> 
> The previous iterations of the SCST patch set you can find on
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2008 and http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/13/146.
> 
> We believe that code is fully mainline ready (considering that ibmvstgt
> driver for SCST not yet tested on hardware).
> 
> This iteration for simplicity contains only 2 target drivers: for local
> access (scst_local) and SRP (ib_srpt). If SCST accepted, we will prepare
> and submit patches for other target drivers: for iSCSI, FCoE, QLogic
> Fibre Channel QLA 2xxx, Emulex Fibre Channel/FCoE and Marvell
> 88SE63xx/64xx/68xx/94xx SAS hardware.
> 
> Also this patchset contains port of ibmvstgt driver for SCST, many
> thanks to Bart Van Assche for performing it!
> 
> This patchset is for kernel 2.6.35. On request we will rebase it for any
> other kernel tree. Since SCST is quite self-contained and almost doesn't
> touch outside kernel code, there are no problems in it.
> 
> As Dmitry Torokhov requested (thanks for the review!), in this iteration
> we added more detail descriptions of each patch. Since the space for
> description is too limited, we can't describe full SCST internals (it's
> worth a book). But we hope that those description will be a good
> starting point.
> 
> More detail description of SCST, its drivers and utilities you can find
> on SCST home page http://scst.sourceforge.net. Detail features list and
> comparison with other Linux target subsystems you can find on
> http://scst.sourceforge.net/comparison.html. Description of the SCST
> processing flow you can find in http://scst.sourceforge.net/scst_pg.html
> (especially see picture "The commands processing flow").
> 
> SCST is complete self-contained subsystem. It shares only few with the
> Linux SCSI (initiator) subsystem: constants and some low level utility
> functions. This is a deliberate decision, because the task of
> implementing a SCSI target (i.e. server) is orthogonal to the task of
> implementing a SCSI initiator (i.e. client). Such orthogonality between
> client and server implementations is quite common. In fact, I can't
> recall anything, where client and server are coupled together. You can
> see how few NFS client and server are sharing in the Linux kernel (<300
> LOC). For me to build SCSI target around initiator is similar as to
> build Sendmail around Mutt, or Apache around Firefox.
> 
> I'm writing about it so much, because STGT's in-kernel interface and
> data fields embedded into the Linux SCSI (initiator) subsystem, i.e.
> STGT is built around the Linux SCSI (initiator) subsystem, and this
> approach considered the best by many kernel developers. But, in fact,
> this approach is wrong, because of orthogonality between initiator and
> target subsystems. A good design is to keep orthogonal things
> separately, not coupled together.
> 
> Consequences of this bad move is predictable and common for cases when
> separate things coupled together:
> 
> 1. Internal: sometimes it isn't obvious if a function or data type is
> for target or initiator mode. Hence, it is easy fixing initiator mode
> break target and vice versa.
> 
> 2. User visible. At the moment, supposed to be initiator-side
> scsi_transport_* modules for FC and SRP depends from the target side
> module module scsi_tgt, like:
> 
> # lsmod
> Module                  Size  Used by
> qla2xxx               130844  0
> firmware_class          8064  1 qla2xxx
> scsi_transport_fc      40900  1 qla2xxx
> scsi_tgt               12196  1 scsi_transport_fc
> ...
> 
> This means that all FC and SRP users must have scsi_tgt loaded although
> they never going to run a SCSI target and have never heard about the
> only module in the kernel which actually needs scsi_tgt.ko: ibmvstgt.ko.
> 
> SCSI target and initiator devices generally live under different
> lifetime rules starting from initialization: initiator devices created
> by target scanning, while target devices created by external action on
> the target side.
> 
> SCSI target and initiator devices doing opposite processing: initiator
> is initiating SCSI commands, while target is processing them. The target
> side initiating notifications, the initiator side - processing them, for
> instance, by rescanning the corresponding target port after REPORT LUNS
> DATA HAS CHANGED Unit Attention. Even DMA transfer direction for the
> same commands is opposite. For instance for a READ command: TO_DEVICE
> for target device and FROM_DEVICE for initiator device.
> 
> SCSI target and initiator subsystems need completely different user
> interface, because the initiator subsystem creates devices internally,
> but for the target subsystem devices created by external actions via the
> user interface.
> 
> Yes, sure, there are cases when a HBA can serve both target and
> initiator modes, but this is rather a special case. For instance, SCST
> has 9 target drivers, from which 7 are target mode only drivers. For
> such cases, the best is (and this approach is used by mvsas_tgt and
> qla2x00t drivers):
> 
> - To make the target mode part a separate add-on to the main initiator
> mode driver. The initiator mode driver will be responsible for
> initializing hardware and managing ports for both modes.
> 
> - To add to the initiator module a set of hooks to allow it to interact
> with target mode add-on as soon as it is loaded and send to it target
> commands from initiators.
> 
> As an illustration, consider STGT ibmvstgt driver and see how many it
> actually shares with the initiator mode. It is defined as:
> 
> static struct scsi_host_template ibmvstgt_sht = {
> 	.name			= TGT_NAME,
> 	.module			= THIS_MODULE,
> 	.can_queue		= INITIAL_SRP_LIMIT,
> 	.sg_tablesize		= SG_ALL,
> 	.use_clustering		= DISABLE_CLUSTERING,
> 	.max_sectors		= DEFAULT_MAX_SECTORS,
> 	.transfer_response	= ibmvstgt_cmd_done,
> 	.eh_abort_handler	= ibmvstgt_eh_abort_handler,
> 	.shost_attrs		= ibmvstgt_attrs,
> 	.proc_name		= TGT_NAME,
> 	.supported_mode		= MODE_TARGET,
> };
> 
> 1. For "can_queue" we see in scsi_tgt_alloc_queue() commented code:
> 
> /*
> * this is a silly hack. We should probably just queue as many
> * command as is recvd to userspace. uspace can then make
> * sure we do not overload the HBA
> */
> q->nr_requests = shost->can_queue;
> 
> The comment is correct, can_queue is nonsense on the target side,
> because initiator is queuing commands and a target driver generally
> can't do anything with it, so can_queue isn't property of a target
> driver, but property of common flow control managed by the target mid-layer.
> 
> 2. Similarly, "max_sectors" is also nonsense for a target driver,
> because it doesn't queuing commands. In SCSI such limit is negotiated by
> Block Limits VPD page on per LUN, not per target driver basis.
> 
> 3. eh_abort_handler(). Such callback in the way how it is used by STGT
> can only be used with a single threaded processing, because abort can
> happen fully asynchronously to the processing of the affected command,
> so the processing would need complicated locking to allow such async
> abort. On practice with multithreaded processing it is much simpler to
> have all commands processing fully synchronous and check for aborts only
> in specially defined places. In this approach, such callback isn't needed.
> 
> 4. transfer_response() - fully target mode callback
> 
> 5. shost_attrs and proc_name - it's better to have target mode user
> interface in different place with initiator mode.
> 
> Thus, we have shared between target and initiator modes only "name",
> "module", "sg_tablesize", "use_clustering" fields. Not many, yes?
> 
> In the descriptions for specific patches I'll evaluate more about SCST
> architecture.
> 
> Thanks,
> Vlad
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