Recently, judging from error reports reaching me from smartmontools, sdparm and sg_start, something changed in the sd driver associated with the SYNCHRONIZE CACHE command it issues when a device is closed. That only seems to happen when the device is opened RW and it exposes a nasty difference between the semantics of spinning up and down ATA disks compared to SCSI disks. If you send SYNCHRONIZE CACHE to a SATL then the ATA disk behind it will be spun up if it happened to be spun down. Send that command to a SCSI disk and you will get an error message (sense) indicating that you need to do START_STOP_UNIT(start) first. One manifestation of this problem is that: sdparm -C stop <ata_disk_via_sd> doesn't work. Being a SCSI utility it opens the sd device RW reflecting that the START_STOP_UNIT to a SCSI disk is potentially state changing (in the sense that subsequent READs and WRITEs may fail). But since we have a ATA disk then the SYNCHRONIZE CACHE on close spins up the disk, defeating the attempt to spin it down. Now I'm playing lots of tricks in sdparm to get around this but I think the correct solution is for the sd driver to only send the SYNCHRONIZE CACHE command to a device on close if something has been written to it. Doug Gilbert -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html