On Thu, Apr 23 2009, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 22 2009, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>>> Currently, libata creates a Scsi_Host per port. This was originally
>>>> done to leverage SCSI's infrastructure to arbitrate among master/slave
>>>> devices, but is not needed for most modern SATA controllers. And I
>>>> _think_ it is not needed for master/slave if done properly, either.
>>> BTW note the above, with regards to the libata SCSI->block
>>> conversion. libata currently relies on SCSI for some amount of
>>> generic device arbitration, in several situations (see ->qc_defer,
>>> SCSI_MLQUEUE_.*_BUSY). libata expects SCSI to be intelligent and not
>>> starve devices, etc.
>>
>> Defer looks like internal policy, I don't see that functioning any
>> different in the block layer. SCSI_MLQUEUE_*_BUSY in SCSI is primarily
>> using the block layer functionality of BLKPREP_DEFER to begin with, so I
>> think we're pretty close to providing all that already.
>
> It's not quite that simple. I am referring mainly to arbitration across
> multiple request_queue's. SCSI has useful code in place to deal with
> target-busy and host-busy conditions, both of which could potentially be
> blocking and unblocking multiple request queues.
>
> mlqueue is much more than just a wrapper over block requeueing
> functions. Read scsi_next_command() and scsi_run_queue(), and grep for
> starved_list, host_{busy,blocked}, target_{busy,blocked},
> device_{busy,blocked}.
>
> In our master/slave case, we must choose between queue A and queue B,
> making sure to starve neither. For simplex DMA, we potentially have
> queues A, B, C and D serving requests across the "bus bottleneck," and
> must ensure no starvation of A, B, C or D.
>
>
> Although I have no code to back this up, my gut feeling is that a
> "request queue group" object, with associated functions, that would be
> the appropriate place for cross-queue or "host-wide" (as in, struct
> Scsi_Host or struct ata_host) functionality.
>
> Whatever the solution, libata definitely makes use of SCSI's
> cross-request_queue arbitration, so any move to block will require
> similar functionality.
Agree, I think we discussed this many years ago as well. I guess a
request queue grouping with fair arbitration would suffice. If you need
to defer for a device beyond that, a simple BLKPREP_DEFER would just
postpone service until the next round. Probably allow both "skip until
next round", or "defer the entire group, service me again next time
first".
--
Jens Axboe
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