Re: [PATCH][RFC 23/23]: Support for zero-copy TCP transmit of user space data

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Hi Evgeniy,

Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
Hi Vladislav.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:04:36PM +0300, Vladislav Bolkhovitin (vst@xxxxxxxx) wrote:
In the chosen approach new optional field void *net_priv was added to struct page. It is enclosed by

There is a huge no-no in networking land on increasing skb.
Reason is simple every skb will carry potentially unneded data as long
as given option is enabled, and most of the time it will.
To break this barrier one has to have (I wanted to write ego, but then
decided to replace it with mojo) so huge reason to do this, that it is
almost impossible to have.

Something tells me that increasing page structure with 8 bytes because
of zero-copy iscsi transfer is not that great idea, since basically every
user out there will have it enabled in the distro config and will waste
noticeble amount of ram.

The waste will be only 0.2% of RAM or 2MB per 1GB. Not much. Perhaps, not noticeable for an average user of distro kernels at all. Embedded people, who count each byte, almost always don't need iSCSI, so won't have any problems to disable TCP_ZERO_COPY_TRANSFER_COMPLETION_NOTIFICATION option.

Also, as I wrote, iSCSI-SCST can work without this patch or with TCP_ZERO_COPY_TRANSFER_COMPLETION_NOTIFICATION option disabled, but with user space device handlers it will work considerably worse. Only few distro kernels users need an iSCSI target and only few among such users need to use a user space device handler. So, option TCP_ZERO_COPY_TRANSFER_COMPLETION_NOTIFICATION can be safely disabled in default configs of distro kernels. People who need both iSCSI target *and* fast working user space device handler would simply enable that option and rebuild the kernel. Rejecting this patch provides much worse alternative: those people would also have to *patch* the kernel at first, only then enable that option, then rebuild the kernel.

The same problem of not sending any kind of notification to the user
when his pages are 'acked' by receiving some packet or freeing the data
exists long ago and was tried to be fixed several times.

The most applicable to your case maybe DST experience. DST is a block
layer device and all its pages starting from quite recent kernels are
not allowed to be slab ones (xfs was the last one who provided slab
pages in the bios), so each page has two 'unused' pointers in lru list
entry, which you may reuse. If scsi layer may have slab pages from some
place (although this does not sound like a good idea, ->sendpage() will
bug on on them anyway), this hack will not work, otherwise you only need
to have net_page_get/put stuff in and do not mess with increasing page.
And this was tested 3-4 kernel releases ago, so things may be changed.

I've just rechecked if any of struct page fields can be shared with net_priv field. Unfortunately, it looks like none among the mandatory fields:

- Transmitting pages can be mapped in some user space, so sharing in unions with _mapcount, mapping and index fields isn't possible

- Transmitting pages can be in the page cache, so sharing lru field isn't possible as well

It might, however, be shared with field "virtual", since SCST allocates only lowmem pages, but on non-HIGHMEM kernels and most HIGHMEM kernels WANT_PAGE_VIRTUAL isn't defined, so it will change basically nothing.

Another appropach is to increase skb's shared data (at the end of the
skb->data), and this approach was not frowned upon too much either, but
it requires to mess with skb->destructor, which may not be appropriate
in some cases. If iscsi does not use sockets (it does iirc), things are
much simpler.

As I wrote, approach to use net_priv on the skb level was examined, but rejected as unpractical. Simply too many places should be modified to prevent merging skb's with different net_priv-like labels and those places are too inobvious. Implementation of this approach and, especially, maintenance it would be just a nightmare.

Thanks,
Vlad

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