Re: Integration of SCST in the mainstream Linux kernel

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Bart Van Assche wrote:
On Feb 4, 2008 11:57 PM, Jeff Garzik <jeff@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Networked block devices are attractive because the concepts and
implementation are more simple than networked filesystems... but usually
you want to run some sort of filesystem on top.  At that point you might
as well run NFS or [gfs|ocfs|flavor-of-the-week], and ditch your
networked block device (and associated complexity).

Running a filesystem on top of iSCSI results in better performance
than NFS, especially if the NFS client conforms to the NFS standard
(=synchronous writes).
By searching the web search for the keywords NFS, iSCSI and
performance I found the following (6 years old) document:
http://www.technomagesinc.com/papers/ip_paper.html. A quote from the
conclusion:
    Our results, generated by running some of industry standard benchmarks,
    show that iSCSI significantly outperforms NFS for situations when
    performing streaming, database like accesses and small file transactions.

async performs better than sync... this is news? Furthermore, NFSv4 has not only async capability but delegation too (and RDMA if you like such things), so the comparison is not relevant to modern times.

But a networked filesystem (note I'm using that term, not "NFS", from here on) is simply far more useful to the average user. A networked block device is a building block -- and a useful one. A networked filesystem is an immediately usable solution.

For remotely accessing data, iSCSI+fs is quite simply more overhead than a networked fs. With iSCSI you are doing

	local VFS -> local blkdev -> network

whereas a networked filesystem is

	local VFS -> network

iSCSI+fs also adds new manageability issues, because unless the filesystem is single-computer (such as diskless iSCSI root fs), you still need to go across the network _once again_ to handle filesystem locking and coordination issues.

There is no _fundamental_ reason why remote shared storage via iSCSI OSD is any faster than a networked filesystem.


SCSI-over-IP has its uses. Absolutely. It needed to be standardized. But let's not pretend iSCSI is anything more than what it is. Its a bloated cat5 cabling standard :)

	Jeff



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