On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:24 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Matt Mackall wrote: > > > > But ATAoE is boring because it's not IP. Which means no routing, > > firewalls, tunnels, congestion control, etc. > > The thing is, that's often an advantage. Not just for performance. > > > NBD and iSCSI (for all its hideous growths) can take advantage of these > > things. > > .. and all this could equally well be done by a simple bridging protocol > (completely independently of any AoE code). > > The thing is, iSCSI does things at the wrong level. It *forces* people to > use the complex protocols, when it's a known that a lot of people don't > want it. I frankly think NBD is at a pretty comfortable level. It's internally very simple (and hardware-agnostic). And moderately easy to do in silicon. But I'm not going to defend iSCSI. I worked on the first implementation (what became the Cisco iSCSI driver) and I have no love for iSCSI at all. It should have been (and started out as) a nearly trivial encapsulation of SCSI over TCP much like ATA over Ethernet but quickly lost the plot when committees got ahold of it. -- Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html