Ingo Molnar wrote:
it would have been totally appropriate for me to just send a mail to
lkml with the proper subject line about the breakage. (I might even have
decided to stay completely silent about the issue and fix it for my own
build, letting you guys figure it out.)
Oh come on... You are smart enough to know to at least CC the driver
maintainer, the key POC who should be aware of breakage of their driver.
That is a standard courtesy.
( And as this was spent from my family's weekend time and i had no time
and no interest to dig any further than to figure out the "first hop"
of the change that broke the build, and the parties who initiated that
hop. I'm in fact surprised that your and James's answer to my
bugreport is hostility. )
I'm sorry you read "would be nice" as hostility.
So i find your suggestion that i should have added more people to the
Cc: line unfair on several levels.
As I noted, it is an obvious courtesy to CC the driver maintainer, at
the very least.
_Especially_ when it is a change that requires some knowledge of the
hardware, as was this case.
This set of changes seemed like 50% guesswork to me, without
consulting the authors :( And unlike many changes, you actually have
to know the hardware [or get clues from surrounding code] to make the
change.
you mean the whole set of changes?
The whole set of changes, yes, not just yours.
but ... i guess next time i'll think twice before sending any bugreports
about or related to the SCSI code anywhere, unless they become really
annoying. Who needs this hassle?
The fact is, each larger subsystem (net, scsi, ata I know) has several
vendor contacts and driver maintainers who for various reasons prefer a
more focused -- and often less hostile -- mailing list to LKML.
I have a hard enough time as it is, trying to convince hardware vendors
to work with us, that we are not all assholes.
How about respecting the preferences of certain segments of a very large
community, even when they differ from your own? We have a
community-accepted method of expressing these preferences, the
MAINTAINERS file.
IMO, standard practice should be:
* To or CC: driver maintainer mentioned in MAINTAINERS (if any)
* CC: LKML, any list mentioned in MAINTAINERS
So, how about CC'ing the targets that have nicely requested to be CC'd?
Jeff
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