Re: [PATCH RESEND v2] scsi: ignore Synchronize Cache command failures to keep using drives not supporting it

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I have just checked the drive and I can now confirm that you are right
about the capabilities reported: it is indeed reporting Write Caching.

However the point is that the current kernel behaviour is wrong and
leading to data corruption on such drives, as the sync function fails
due to missing Synchronize Cache command.

Once again, this is because of very old HD specifications that were
implementing Write Caching without that command.

The way forward is to treat the command failure as non-critical (see
attached patch) because clearly it's not implemented in all drives, but
only more recent ones.

Guido

On Mon, 01/03/2021 at 07.38 +0000, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> On 2021/03/01 16:12, Guido Trentalancia wrote:
> > Hi James,
> > 
> > thanks for getting back on this issue.
> > 
> > I have tested this patch for over a year and it works flawlessly
> > without any data corruption !
> > 
> > On such kind of drives the actual situation is just the opposite as
> > you
> > describe: data corruption occurs when not using this patch !
> > 
> > I do not agree with you: if a drive does not support Synchronize
> > Cache
> > command, there is no point in treating the failure as critical and
> > by
> > all means the failure must be ignored, as there is nothing which
> > can be
> > done about it and it should not be treated as a failure !
> 
> If the drive does not support synchronize cache, then the drive
> should *not*
> report write caching either. If it does, then the kernel will issue
> synchronize
> cache commands and that command failing indicates the drive is
> broken/lying ==
> junk and should not be trusted.
> 
> The user can trivially remedy to this situation by force disabling
> the write
> cache: no more synchronize cache commands will be issued and no more
> failures.
> No need to patch the kernel for that. And if the drive does not allow
> disabling
> write caching, then I seriously recommend replacing it :)
> 
> > 
> > However, if you are willing to propose an alternative patch, I'd be
> > happy to test it and report back, as long as this bug is fixed in
> > the
> > shortest time possible.
> > 
> > Guido
> > 
> > On Sun, 28/02/2021 at 08.37 -0800, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2021-02-28 at 10:01 +0100, Guido Trentalancia wrote:
> > > > Many obsolete hard drives do not support the Synchronize Cache
> > > > SCSI
> > > > command. Such command is generally issued during fsync() calls
> > > > which
> > > > at the moment therefore fail with the ILLEGAL_REQUEST sense
> > > > key.
> > > 
> > > It should be that all drives that don't support sync cache also
> > > don't
> > > have write back caches, which means we don't try to do a cache
> > > sync
> > > on
> > > them.  The only time you we ever try to sync the cache is if the
> > > device
> > > advertises a write back cache, in which case the sync cache
> > > command
> > > is
> > > mandatory.
> > > 
> > > I'm sure some SATA manufacturers somewhere cut enough corners to
> > > produce an illegally spec'd drive like this, but your proposed
> > > remedy
> > > is unviable: you can't ignore a cache failure on flush barriers
> > > which
> > > will cause data corruption.  You have to disable barriers on the
> > > filesystem to get correct operation and be very careful about
> > > power
> > > down.
> > > 
> > > James
> > > 
> > > 
> 
> 



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