Re: [PATCH 00/10] vhost/qemu: thread per IO SCSI vq

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On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 08:45:49AM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 5:08 PM Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 4:43 PM Mike Christie
<michael.christie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 11/19/20 10:24 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 4:13 PM Mike Christie
> > <michael.christie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 11/19/20 8:46 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 11:31:17AM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > struct vhost_run_worker_info {
> >      struct timespec *timeout;
> >      sigset_t *sigmask;
> >
> >      /* List of virtqueues to process */
> >      unsigned nvqs;
> >      unsigned vqs[];
> > };
> >
> > /* This blocks until the timeout is reached, a signal is received, or
> > the vhost device is destroyed */
> > int ret = ioctl(vhost_fd, VHOST_RUN_WORKER, &info);
> >
> > As you can see, userspace isn't involved with dealing with the
> > requests. It just acts as a thread donor to the vhost driver.
> >
> > We would want the VHOST_RUN_WORKER calls to be infrequent to avoid the
> > penalty of switching into the kernel, copying in the arguments, etc.
>
> I didn't get this part. Why have the timeout? When the timeout expires,
> does userspace just call right back down to the kernel or does it do
> some sort of processing/operation?
>
> You could have your worker function run from that ioctl wait for a
> signal or a wake up call from the vhost_work/poll functions.

An optional timeout argument is common in blocking interfaces like
poll(2), recvmmsg(2), etc.

Although something can send a signal to the thread instead,
implementing that in an application is more awkward than passing a
struct timespec.

Compared to other blocking calls we don't expect
ioctl(VHOST_RUN_WORKER) to return soon, so maybe the timeout will
rarely be used and can be dropped from the interface.

BTW the code I posted wasn't a carefully thought out proposal :). The
details still need to be considered and I'm going to be offline for
the next week so maybe someone else can think it through in the
meantime.

One final thought before I'm offline for a week. If
ioctl(VHOST_RUN_WORKER) is specific to a single vhost device instance
then it's hard to support poll-mode (busy waiting) workers because
each device instance consumes a whole CPU. If we stick to an interface
where the kernel manages the worker threads then it's easier to share
workers between devices for polling.

Agree, ioctl(VHOST_RUN_WORKER) is interesting and perhaps simplifies thread management (pinning, etc.), but with kthread would be easier to implement polling sharing worker with multiple devices.


I have CCed Stefano Garzarella, who is looking at similar designs for
vDPA software device implementations.

Thanks, Mike please can you keep me in CC for this work?

It's really interesting since I'll have similar issues to solve with vDPA software device.

Thanks,
Stefano




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