Re: [RFC v2 1/6] scsi: xarray hctl

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On 5/26/20 4:27 PM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 08:21:26AM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
On 5/25/20 7:40 PM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
You aren't the first person to ask about having a 64-bit lookup on
32-bit machines.  Indeed, I remember Hannes asking for a 256 bit lookup
at LinuxCon in Prague.  I have always been reluctant to add such a thing
because the XArray uses quite a naive data type underneath.  It works well with
dense arrays but becomes very wasteful of memory for sparse arrays.

My understanding of SCSI-world is that most devices have a single
LUN 0.  Most devices that have multiple LUNs number them sequentially.
Some devices have either an internal structure or essentially pick random
LUNs for the devices they expose.

Not quite. You are correct that most devices have a single LUN 0
(think of libata :-), but those with several LUNs typically
enumerate them. In most cases the enumeration starts at 0 (or 1,
if LUN 0 is used for a management LUN), and reaches up to 256.
Some arrays use a different LUN layout, which means that the top
two bit of the LUN number are set, and possibly some intermediate
numbers, too. But the LUNs themselves are numbered consecutively, too;
it's just at a certain offset.
I've never seen anyone picking LUN numbers at random.

Ah, OK.  I think for these arrays you'd be better off accepting the cost
of an extra 4 bytes in the struct scsi_device rather than the cost of
storing the scsi_device at the LUN.

Let's just work an example where you have a 64-bit LUN with 4 ranges,
each of 64 entries (this is almost a best-case scenario for the XArray).
[0,63], 2^62+[0,63], 2^63+[0,63], 2^63+2^62+[0,63].

If we store them sequentially in an allocating XArray, we take up 256 *
4 bytes = 1kB extra space in the scsi_device.  The XArray will allocate
four nodes plus one node to hold the four nodes, which is 5 * 576 bytes
(2780 bytes) for a total of 3804 bytes.

Storing them in at their LUN will allocate a top level node which covers
bits 60-66, then four nodes, each covering bits of 54-59, another four
nodes covering bits 48-53, four nodes for 42-47, ...  I make it 41 nodes,
coming to 23616 bytes.  And the pointer chase to get to each LUN is
ten deep.  It'll mostly be cached, but still ...

Which is my worry, too.
In the end we're having a massively large array space (128bit if we take the numbers as they stand today), of which only a _tiny_ fraction is actually allocated. We can try to reduce the array space by eg. restricting channels and targets to be 16 bits, and the LUN to be 32 bits. But then we'll be having a hard time arguing; "Hey, we have a cool new feature, which has a really nice interface, but we can't support the same set of devices as we have now...".
That surely will go down well.

Maybe one should look at using an rbtree directly; _that_ could be made to work with an 128bit index, and lookup should be fast, too.
Let's see.

But still, the original question still stands: what would be the most
efficient way using xarrays here?
We have a four-level hierarchy Host:Channel:Target:LUN
and we need to lookup devices (and, occasinally, targets) per host.
At this time, 'channel' and 'target' are unsigned integer, and
LUNs are 64 bit.

It certainly seems sensible to me to have a per-host allocating XArray
to store the targets that belong to that host.  I imagine you also want
a per-target XArray for the LUNs that belong to that target.  Do you
also want a per-host XArray to store the LUNs so you can iterate all
LUNs per host as a single lookup rather than indirecting through the
target Xarray?  That's a design decision for you to make.

Seeing that I'm trying to use the existing HCTL number as index it's quite hard to have a per-host lookup structure, as this would inevitably
require a separate LUN index somewhere.
Which would mean to have a two-level xarray structure, where the first xarray hold the scsi targets, and the second one the LUNs per target.
Not super-nice, but doable.

Still thinking about the rbtree idea, though.

Cheers,

Hannes
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