Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] SCSI: introduce per-host admin queue & enable runtime PM

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On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 10:06:00AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Aug 2018, Ming Lei wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This patchset introduces per-host admin request queue for submitting
> > admin request only, and uses this approach to implement both SCSI
> > quiesce and runtime PM in one very simply way. Also runtime PM deadlock
> > can be avoided in case that request pool is used up.
> > 
> > The idea is borrowed from NVMe.
> > 
> > Admin request is submitted via per-host admin queue, and it is still
> > associated with the same scsi_device as before, and respects this
> > scsi_device's all kinds of limits. Admin queue shares host tags with
> > other IO queues.
> > 
> > One core idea is that for admin request submitted from this admin queue,
> > this request won't be called back to block layer via the associated IO
> > queue(scsi_device). And this is done in the 3rd patch. So once IO queue
> > is frozen, it can be observed as really frozen from block layer view.
> > 
> > SCSI quiesce is implemented by admin queue in very simple way, see patch
> > 12.
> > 
> > Also runtime PM for legacy path can be simplified too, see patch 13.
> > 
> > Finally blk-mq simply follows legacy's approach for supporting runtime PM.
> > 
> > Any comments are welcome!
> 
> The admin queue is meant for a few other types of request, not just PM
> requests, right?

Yes, they are all requests sent via scsi_execute() actually.

> 
> Which raises a question: How do you prevent those other types of 
> request, once they are added to the admin queue, from being sent to the 
> device while it is in low-power mode?

If other non-PM types of request needs to be submitted via admin queue, the
related IO queue will be resumed first, which is done via scsi_autopm_get_device()
in scsi_execute().

> 
> Or turn the question around: Suppose you prevent all requests, even 
> those on the admin queue, from being sent to the device while it is in 
> low-power mode.  Then how do you send the request which tells the 
> device to go back to full power?

For normal IO request, the IO queue is resumed before allocating the IO request.

For other non-PM request, the related IO queue is resumed via scsi_autopm_get_device()
before allocating this request from admin queue.

> 
> It seems to me that any queue-based approach needs to be aware of which
> requests will actually change the device's power level.

Now looks we suppose it is only done by RQF_PM request.


Thanks,
Ming



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