>On Mar 2, 2006, at 11:21 AM, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote: > >> Could anyone advice how a SCSI target device can IO-throttle its >> initiators, i.e. prevent them from queuing too many commands, please? >> >> I suppose, the best way for doing this is to inform the initiators >> about the maximum queue depth X of the target device, so any of the >> initiators will not send more than X commands. But I have not found >> anything similar to that on INQUIRY or MODE SENSE pages. Have I >> missed something? Just returning QUEUE FULL status doesn't look to >> be correct, because it can lead to out of order commands execution. > >Returning QUEUE FULL status is correct, unless the initiator does not >have any pending commands on the LUN, in which case you should return >BUSY. Yes, this can lead to out-of-order execution. That's why tapes >have traditionally not used SCSI command queuing. I'm confused, Vladislav appears to be asking about flow control such as is built into ISCSI, wherein the ISCSI target tells the intitiator how many tasks it's willing to work on at once and the initiator stops sending new ones when it has hit that limit and waits for one of the previous ones to finish. And the target can continuously change that number. With the more primitive transports, I believe this is a manual configuration step -- the target has a fixed maximum queue depth and you tell the driver via some configuration parameter what it is. As I understand it, any system in which QUEUE FULL (that's another name for SCSI's Task Set Full, isn't it?) errors happen is one that is not properly configured. I saw a broken ISCSI system that had QUEUE FULLs happening, and it was a performance disaster. >> Apparently, hardware SCSI targets don't suffer from queuing >> overflow and don't return all the time QUEUE FULL status, so the >> must be a way to do the throttling more elegantly. > >No, they just have big queues. Big queues are another serious performance problem, when it means a target accepts work faster than it can do it. I've seen that cause initiators to send suboptimal requests (if the target appears to be working at infinite speed, the initiator sends small chunks of work as soon as each is ready, whereas if the initiator can tell that the target is choked, the initiator combines and sorts work while it waits, into a stream the target can handle more efficiently). When systems substitute an oversized queue in a target for initiator-target flow control, the initiator ends up having to compensate with artificial schemes to withhold work from a willing target (e.g. Linux "queue plugging"). -- Bryan Henderson IBM Almaden Research Center San Jose CA Filesystems - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html