Re: slow external firewire drive

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Eric Edgar wrote:
  I am having trouble with an external firewire drive.  I have a texas
  instruments based card and a maxtor external enclosure.  Whenever I
  try to do anything with this disk the iowait goes through the roof and
  it can take half an hour or more to untar an 80mb file.  I am not sure
  if its something with my computer or the card or the enclosure.  Any
  help would be greatly appreciated.


hci1394: $Rev: 1313 $ Ben Collins <bcollins@xxxxxxxxxx>
PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:0c.0 (0014 -> 0016)
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:0c.0
ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.0 (PCI): IRQ=[11]  MMIO=[d9800000-d98007ff]  Max
 Packet=[2048]
sbp2: $Rev: 1306 $ Ben Collins <bcollins@xxxxxxxxxx>
ieee1394: sbp2: Driver forced to serialize I/O (serialize_io=1)
ieee1394: sbp2: Try serialize_io=0 for better performance

Like Matthew already mentioned, a "modprobe sbp2 serialize_io=0" before sbp2 is automatically loaded, or the line "options sbp2 serialize_io=0" in /etc/modprobe.conf may achieve better performance. However as far as I know, the performance gain is below variance of measurement with typical 1394a ("FireWire 400") disks. Only 1394b/S800 ("FireWire 800") disks show a noticable improved throughput with that option. But it is not an improvement by an order of magnitude. It may be something like 30% better throughput with S800 devices.

ieee1394: sbp2: Logged into SBP-2 device
ieee1394: Node 0-00:1023: Max speed [S400] - Max payload [2048]
  Vendor: Maxtor    Model: 1394 storage      Rev: v1.3
  Type:   Direct-Access-RBC                  ANSI SCSI revision: 04
SCSI device sda: 156355584 512-byte hdwr sectors (80054 MB)
sda: asking for cache data failed
sda: assuming drive cache: write through
SCSI device sda: 156355584 512-byte hdwr sectors (80054 MB)
sda: asking for cache data failed
sda: assuming drive cache: write through
 sda: sda1
Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0,  type 14


hdparm -tT /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   644 MB in  2.01 seconds = 320.40 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:    8 MB in  3.09 seconds =   2.59 MB/sec

This is really bad. 3.5" S400 disks on S400 host adapters show typically about 23 MB/s with hdparm, 2.5" disks also nearly as much.

At least we can rule out a filesystem related problem with that info.

uname -a 2.6.14-rc4 I dont seem to see any error messages ... just bad performance.

I did not hear of a serious performance regression with that kernel yet. I tested 2.6.14-rc3 and -rc5 myself but they should behave like -rc4.

Anyhow, if there are no error messages, one possible cause are recoverable transport errors at the FireWire bus. Perhaps a syslog with ieee1394 compiled with the "excessive debug output" option could provide clues. Note however that (a) such logs may become really huge, (b) the logging activity might actually mask some problems of the Heisenbug kind out, (c) these logs are no pleasure to read and I for one am typically slow to read and respond to such reports...

BTW, I have a no-name 1394b FireWire 800 card with TI chipset whith an obviously buggy PHY chip which causes extreme slow transfers, even slower than what you see. I need to force this card into 1394a arbitration mode and to optimize the gap count in order to bring that card up to speed. Both is not implemented directly in the 1394 drivers yet.

What is the manufacturer and model of the card and which link chip and PHY chip is it built on? (The PHY chip can only be found out by looking on the card, not by lspci and the like. lspci shows only the link chip.)
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