On 10/21/05 15:54, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > No. What was advertised was a SCSI BOF which you then took over and It was advertised as "SAS BOF" -- the person who wrote that on the message board (reading this list currently) can verify that. > spent the entire time talking about the Adaptec SAS driver. You weren't > interested in discussing wider SCSI issues. You weren't interested in > talking about how other vendors implemented SAS. You weren't interested > in discussing how we could get the best possible SAS interface in Linux. I still am. What everyone now wants is SDI. And as you can see I've posted several times _code_ and templates as to how to do a backend which would work as per spec and a front end which would be adjustable to the whims of "the community", sg/sysfs/whatever1/whatever2. I think SDI will completely satisfy everyone's needs, independently of the fact whether the the protocol is hidden in the FW or not. In fact Fusion MPT is very cool: you only add a few PCI IDs and your hw works with the same driver! And if you care about protocol specifics: use SDI. But the community wanted involvement so then you say: "No! Give us your hardware, we'll do it for you." and then you get into this never-ending goose chase, implementing the wrong thing, the wrong way, as opposed to _listening_ to what is actually wanted. > You shut down other people when they tried to discuss these things. > It was a complete waste of time. Sorry you feel this way. I don't remember you saying anything about SAS. Luben -- http://linux.adaptec.com/sas/ http://www.adaptec.com/sas/ - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html