On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, David S. Miller wrote: Dave, Thanks for filling in the details I was missing about the TOE history. Glad to see you laugh about the ski stuff. I thought about snowboarding then realized I would make a great mogal for someone to do an ali off. If you are open to questions about TOE/RDMA stuff, would like to chat with you and see your POV on the subject. > In that case, it is indeed a vendor trying to shove their particular > solution down our throats. They never even attempt to try out the > alternatives, and we've even gone through the trouble of coming up > with several. And they do this because their whole buisness model is > all about their scheme to the exclusion of anything else, not because > what they have is better. Luben, Reading Dave's points above tends to point to adaptec's current direction, as we all know. TOEs were rejected. I stated I would help with SAS adoption because there is a SAS-Transport model. I asked about a possible libadaptec + libsas, and still waiting to see if you and adaptec are up for the task. Right now the only path open is the one Jeff Garzik is putting forward along with James and Christop. I have a vested interest in seeing SAS-Transport, otherwise I would have cut and run a long time ago. These long email threads where everyone is shout from the top of their hill never wins anything. After a while the hill becomes flat (from all the stomping), and you become old and tired. LSI pointed out they mask there SAS in firmware and make it show up in a scsi-like or scsi state. They also pointed out other vendors have taken this road. Even if Adaptec did not go this way in hardware, there still has to be a way to map into SCSI ... sheesh this is Adaptec known for SCSI. Just an FYI, would suggest you cool your heels and listen for the quiet responses. There is more heat than light right now; maybe this thread will offset some of the cost in the energy criss. Will pass on advice handed to me (when I was a maintainer) relax and listen, nobody is out to get you (and they were right). Cheers, Andre PS I didn't listen to that advice back then, don't make the same mistake. - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
