On 09/29/05 11:17, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > > Then submit your driver as a (separate) block device in parallel to the > existing SCSI subsystem. People will use it for/with other parts if it SAS is ultimately SCSI. I'll just have to write my own SCSI core. _We_ together can do this in parallel to the old SCSI Core. This is the whole idea. > makes sense (and you - as the maintainer - accept their patches). And in You see, at my age and my situation, I no longer see this as "my balls - your balls". What matters to me is good design, quality code, customer satisfaction, bottom line. E.g. I'm quite a liberal person and I wouldn't block or stop new technologes from going into Linux on the basis and merit of my not understanidn that particular new technology. The bottom line is not "my balls - your balls" but the wide spread use of Linux and "storage OS of choice". Not "hobbyist OS of choice" and not "let me play Robin Hood". > a few years the "old" SCSI core fades out as legacy drives fade out (or > they will happily coexist forever). Yep, I've been saying this since 2002. On the linux-scsi ML. > The point is: If *you* want it that way, *you* must go that way (and do > not expect others to do it just that *you* get *your* driver merged). > You are the maintainer of the new stuff and (almost) everything will > work as you want. And this is the problem: *you* and "the community" see things in *this* way: "your balls - my balls", "yours/mine". While I see things like this: new technology, absolve, use, move on. As to your comment above, it's not about how *I* see things. It's about how things _actually_ *are*: http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/drafts/sam4/sam4r03.pdf > It might not be the cleanest or most elegant solution in the world, but > if it works, who cares and why? Turn the table around: can _I_ pose this question to JB and Christoph? (since they are the ones who think this of SAM/SPC) > Where is now the real problem? > I can't see one. Me neither. Luben - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html