On Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:59 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: > On 09/28/05 11:15, Moore, Eric Dean wrote: > > Luben: I guess you didn't get what I meant. > > > > I was referring that there are other > > *vendors* (not LSI, e.g MegaRAID) that are > > working on sas solutions with sas firmware > > implementation. One that comes to mind is > > Intel SunRise Lake, which is non a MPT based > > solution, that would work with Christophs > > Sas Layer. There maybe others, such as emulex. > > Perhaps James S. could comment on that. > > This means that they have an IOP on the same > silicone or on the same packaging. > > This means, again that they'd done all transport > specific tasks in the FW (by the IOP). > Can you stop this tirade, e.g. conspiracy theory, in regards to LSI/MPT and the transport layer? That is not the case. There will be other sas solutions that implement discovery, and sas/sata translation in firmware, higher level event handling. > Again, such solutions do _not_ need the > SAS Transport Layer. > > They don't even need the attributes, but > as a "nice to have" feature, you can use > transport attributes. Have you forgotten about CSMI/SDI? It was nearly a year ago I got blasted when I posted a sas driver with all those IOCTLs. CSMI/SDI is more than a "nice to have" feature. Its taken quite a bit of time(and greif) to re-design the driver so it will work with the transport layers in the way people on this forum wanted it. Trust me, its been painful. > > You, as technical person, should recognize > the different needs and thus the different > solutions between LSI's implementation and > Adaptec's. > > I'm surprised you never chimed in in defense > of the _different_ technology. > > See, I've mentioned many times that the two > radically different technologies can coexist. > But I've not heard any technical word > from the other guys: you. > I just don't have time to engage you. I've got work to do, customer requests, issues, etc. Eric Moore - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html