On Wednesday 16 September 2015 08:51:14 Hans Verkuil wrote: > > a) Similar to my first attempt, define a new struct v4l2_timeval, but > > only use it when building with a y2038-aware libc, so we don't break > > existing environments: > > > > /* some compile-time conditional that we first need to agree on with libc */ > > #if __BITS_PER_TIME_T > __BITS_PER_LONG > > struct v4l2_timeval { long tv_sec; long tv_usec; } > > #else > > #define v4l2_timeval timeval > > #endif > > > > This means that any user space that currently assumes the timestamp > > member to be a 'struct timeval' has to be changed to access the members > > individually, or get a build error. > > The __BITS_PER_TIME_T trick has to be used in a couple of other subsystems > > too, as some of them have no other way to identify an interface > > I don't like this as this means some applications will compile on 64 bit or > with a non-y2038-aware libc, but fail on a 32-bit with y2038-aware libc. This > will be confusing and it may take a long time before the application developer > discovers this. Right. > > b) Keep the header file unchanged, but deal with both formats of v4l2_buffer > > in the kernel. Fortunately, all ioctls that pass a v4l2_buffer have > > properly defined command codes, and it does not get passed using a > > read/write style interface. This means we move the v4l2_buffer32 > > handling from v4l2-compat-ioctl32.c to v4l2-ioctl.c and add an in-kernel > > v4l2_buffer64 that matches the 64-bit variant of v4l2_buffer. > > This way, user space can use either definition of time_t, and the > > kernel will just handle them natively. > > This is going to be the most common way to handle y2038 compatibility > > in device drivers, and it has the additional advantage of simplifying > > the compat path. > > This would work. Ok. So the only downside I can think of for this is that it uses a slightly less efficient format with additional padding in it. The kernel side will be a little ugly as I'm trying to avoid defining a generic timeval64 structure (the generic syscalls should not need one), but I'll try to implement it first to see how it ends up. > > c) As you describe above, introduce a new v4l2_buffer replacement with > > a different layout that does not reference timeval. For this case, I > > would recommend using a single 64-bit nanosecond timestamp that can > > be generated using ktime_get_ns(). > > However, to avoid ambiguity with the user space definition of struct > > timeval, we still have to hide the existing 'struct v4l2_buffer' from > > y2038-aware user space by enclosing it in '#if __BITS_PER_TIME_T > > > __BITS_PER_LONG' or similar. > > Right, and if we do that we still have the problem I describe under a). So we > would need to implement b) regardless. > > In other words, choosing c) doesn't depend on y2038 and it should be decided > on its own merits. > > I've proposed this as a topic to the media workshop we'll have during the Linux > Kernel Summit. Thanks, good idea. I'll be at the kernel summit, but don't plan to attend the media workshop otherwise. If you let me know about the schedule, I can come to this session (or ping me on IRC or hangout when it starts). Arnd -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-samsung-soc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html