On Monday 15 December 2014 18:13:23 Will Deacon wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 05:53:48PM +0000, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > Hi Will,
>
> Hello again :)
>
> > On Monday 15 December 2014 17:43:02 Will Deacon wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 05:27:30PM +0000, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > On Monday 15 December 2014 17:17:00 Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > > Creating the platform device manually for the IOMMU is indeed
> > > > > grotty, but I don't really understand why it's needed. Interrupt
> > > > > controllers, for example, seem to get by without one.
> > > >
> > > > There's several reasons, one of the most compelling ones I can think
> > > > of at the moment is runtime PM. IRQ controllers close to the CPU use
> > > > CPU PM notifiers instead. Note that IRQ controllers that are further
> > > > away from the CPU (such as GPIO-based IRQ controllers) are real
> > > > platform devices and use runtime PM.
> > >
> > > Ok, that's a good point, but the IOMMU will still probe later anyway,
> > > right?
> >
> > That depends on the driver implementation, using OF node match an IOMMU
> > driver doesn't have to register a struct driver. Assuming we require
> > IOMMU drivers to register a struct driver, a platform device should then
> > be probed at a later time.
> >
> > However, if we wait until the IOMMU gets probed to initialize runtime PM
> > and make it functional, we'll be back in square one if the IOMMU gets
> > probed after the bus master, as the bus master could start issuing bus
> > requests at probe time with the IOMMU not powered yet.
>
> True, but couldn't the early init code do enough to get the thing
> functional? That said, I'm showing my ignorance here as I'm not familiar
> with the PM code (and the software models I have for the SMMU clearly don't
> implement anything in this regard).
We're reaching the limits of my knowledge as well. If the IOMMU is in a power
domain different than the bus masters the driver would at least need to ensure
that the power domain is turned on, which might be a bit hackish without
runtime PM.
> > > > IOMMUs are not as low-level as system interrupt controllers or system
> > > > clocks. I'm beginning to agree with Thierry that they should be
> > > > treated as normal platform devices as they're not required earlier
> > > > than probe time of their bus master devices.
> > >
> > > Well, I think you'd have to propose patches for discussion since I'm
> > > certainly not wed to the current approach; I just want something that
> > > allows of_{dma,iommu}_configure to run with the information it needs.
> >
> > Do we need of_dma_configure() to run when the device is created, or could
> > we postpone it to just before probe time ?
>
> I'm not sure I can answer that one... Arnd?
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Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
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