Re: [RFC Patch v2 0/3] add temporary parent migration support

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On 4 September 2013 23:31, Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 of September 2013 10:43:28 Mike Turquette wrote:
>> Quoting Tomasz Figa (2013-09-03 15:36:50)
>>
>> > Hi Chander,
>> >
>> > On Tuesday 03 of September 2013 17:04:28 Chander Kashyap wrote:
>> > > Some platform has provision to change cpu parent clock during
>> > > cpu frequency scaling. This patch series provides a mechanism to
>> > > implement the same using CCF.
>> > >
>> > > Patch1 provides mechanism to migrate to new parent temporarily.
>> > >
>> > > Patch2 updates the user of clk_register_mux and DEFINE_CLK_MUX which
>> > > are modified to add support for clk migration.
>> > >
>> > > Patch3 adds support to Exynos5250 to use the clock parent migration
>> > > feature implemented in CCF.
>> >
>> > I don't really like this approach. A need to change mux setting
>> > temporarily is heavily platform-specific and I don't think it should
>> > be
>> > handled by generic code.
>>
>> I agree with Tomasz.
>>
>> > First of all there are many factor that you would
>> >
>> > have to account for to make this solution generic, such as:
>> >  - board specific alternative parents,
>> >  - exact moment of parent change,
>> >  - some other platform specific conditions, like CPU voltage that must
>> >  be>
>> > changed when mux is changed, because it changes CPU frequency,
>> >
>> >  - and probably a lot of more factors that only people working with
>> >  all
>> >
>> > the platforms supported (and unsupported yet) by Linux.
>> >
>> > I can see at least two solutions for this problem that don't require
>> > changing core code of common clock framework:
>> >
>> > 1) Implementing a special clock type using normal mux ops, but also
>> > registering a notifier for its PRE_RATE_CHANGE and POST_RATE_CHANGE
>> > events to perform parent switching.
>>
>> Creating a custom clock type is the way to go here. It is possible to
>> wrap the mux clk_ops to re-use that code, or just write a custom clock
>> type from scratch.
>>
>> I do not like using the clock rate-change notifiers for this purpose.
>> The notifiers provide hooks to drivers that need to take care around
>> clock transitions. Using the notifiers from within the clock framework
>> indicates poor design.
>
> I was not sure how a .set_parent() from inside a .set_rate() would
> interact with rate setting, so I mentioned notifiers here, but now as I
> think of it, CCF is supposed to be re-entrant, so things should be fine.
>
>> > 2) Using normal mux clock, but registering such notifiers in clock
>> > controller or cpufreq driver.
>>
>> This depends on what the data sheet or reference manual states. If using
>> a temporary parent is a property of the clock programming sequence
>> (e.g. to have a glitch-less transition) then that logic belongs in the
>> clock provider driver (i.e. a custom clock type needs to be created
>> with this logic).
>>
>> However if using a temporary parent is not required for programming the
>> clock, but is instead a requirement of the clock consumer (e.g. a CPU,
>> or some I/O controller) then perhaps putting this logic in that driver
>> is the right way to go. In that case the logic could be explicit:
>>
>>       clk_set_parent(clk, temp_parent);
>>       clk_set_rate(clk, target_rate);
>>       clk_set_parent(clk, target_parent);
>>
>> Or it could implicit with the use of rate-change notifiers. Again the
>> rate-change notifiers exist for clock consumer drivers to use, so this
>> is OK.
>>
>> I have a hunch that the right way to do this is for a custom clock type
>> to be created which simply calls clk_set_parent from within the clock's
>> .set_rate callback, but I'll wait on feedback from Chander on the needs
>> of his platform.
>
> I believe Chander has exactly the same use case for this as we have for
> Exynos 4210 and 4x12.

Yes Tomasz,
I am trying to address the same issue. As this was requirement for
more than one platform so thought of making it generic.

>
> On these SoCs, CPU frequency is being scaled by reconfiguring PLL, which
> needs to be masked for locking time. To let the CPU operate normally, a
> mux that allows switching CPU clock domain between two PLLs can be
> switched to the other PLL (MPLL) until the main ARM PLL (APLL) starts
> operating again.
>
> However this issue is not limited to clocks, because there must be also a
> voltage transition involved if the utility PLL has frequency higher than
> the one currently being reconfigured.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz
>



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with warm regards,
Chander Kashyap
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