Re: [PATCH 07/12] s390: add pte_free_defer(), with use of mmdrop_async()

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On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 02:59:33PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:

> I guess the best thing would be to modify kernel/fork.c to allow the
> architecture to override free_mm(), and arch/s390 call_rcu to free mm.
> But as a quick and dirty s390-end workaround, how about:

RCU callbacks are not ordered so that doesn't seem like it helps..

synchronize_rcu would do the job since it is ordered, but I think the
performance cost is too great to just call it from mmdrop

rcu_barrier() followed by call_rcu on the mm struct might work, but I
don't know the cost

A per-cpu refcount scheme might also do the job reasonably

Making the page frag pool global (per-cpu global I guess) would also
remove the need to reach back to the freeable mm_struct and reduce the
need for struct page memory. This views it as a special kind of
kmemcache.

Another approach is to not use a rcu_head in the ptdesc at all.

With a global kmemcache-like-thing we could probably also organize
something where you don't use a rcu_head in the ptdesc, but instead
just a naked 'next' pointer. This would give enough space to have two
next pointers and the next pointers can be re-used for the normal free
list as well.

In this flow you'd thread the free'd frags onto a waterfall of global
per-cpu lists:
 - RCU free the next cycle
 - RCU free this cycle
 - Actually free

Where a single rcu_head and single call_rcu frees the entire 2nd list
to the 3rd list and then schedules the 1st list to be RCU'd next. This
eliminates the need to store a function pointer in the ptdesc at
all.

It requires some global per-cpu lock on the free/alloc paths however,
but this is basically what every other arch does as it frees the page
back to the page allocator.

I suspect that two next pointers would also eliminate pt_frag_refcount
entirely as we can encode that information in the low bits of the next
pointers.

> (Funnily enough, there's no problem when the stored mm gets re-used for
> a different mm, once past its spin_lock_init(&mm->context.lock);
> because

We do that have really weird "type safe by rcu" thing in the
allocators, but I don't quite know how it works.

> Powerpc is like that.  I have no idea how much gets wasted that way.
> I was keen not to degrade what s390 does: which is definitely superior,
> but possibly not worth the effort.

Yeah, it would be good to understand if this is really sufficiently
beneficial..

> I'll look into it, once I understand c2c224932fd0.  But may have to write
> to Vishal first, or get the v2 of my series out: if only I could work out
> a safe and easy way of unbreaking s390...

Can arches opt in to RCU freeing page table support and still keep
your series sane?

Honestly, I feel like trying to RCU enable page tables should be its
own series. It is a sufficiently tricky subject on its own right.

Jason



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