Alexandre, On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 04:07:51PM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote: [ ... ] > > > > > > On a side note, I tried an alternate implementation by adding a retry into > > > alarmtimer_suspend(), where it would request a smaller timeout if the > > > requested timeout failed. I did not pursue/submit this since it seemed > > > hacky. To solve that problem, I'd rather discuss extending the RTC API > > > to provide a maximum offset to its users. Such a solution would probably > > > be desirable, but that it more longer term and would not solve the > > > immediate problem. > > > > Yes, this is what I was aiming for. This is something that is indeed > > missing in the RTC API and that I already thought about. But indeed, it > > would be great to have a way to set the alarm range separately from the > > time keeping range. This would indeed have to be a range relative to the > > current time. > > > > alarmtimer_suspend() can then get the allowed alarm range for the RTC, > > and set the alarm to max(alarm range, timer value) and loop until the > > timer has expired. Once we have this API, userspace can do the same. > > > > I guess that ultimately, this doesn't help your driver unless you are > > wanting to wakeup all the chromebooks at least once a day regardless of > > their EC. > > That is a no-go. It would reduce battery lifetime on all Chromebooks, > including those not affected by the problem (that is, almost all of them). > > To implement reporting the maximum supported offset, I'd probably either > try to identify affected Chromebooks using devicetree information, > or by sending am alarm request > 24h in the future in the probe function > and setting the maximum offset just below 24h if that request fails. > We'd have to discuss the best approach internally. > > Either case, that doesn't help with the short term problem that we > have to solve now and that can be backported to older kernels. It also > won't help userspace - userspace alarm requests, as Brian has pointed out, > are separate from limits supported by the RTC hardware. We can not change > the API for CLOCK_xxx_ALARM to userspace, and doing so would not make > sense anyway since it works just fine as long as the system isn't > suspended. Besides, changing alarmtimer_suspend() as you suggest above > would solve the problem for userspace, so I don't see a need for a > userspace API/ABI change unless I am missing something. > Would you be open to accepting this patch, with me starting to work on the necessary infastructure changes as suggested above for a more comprehensive solution ? Thanks, Guenter