On Wed, Feb 15 2023 at 18:30, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote: > diff --git a/include/linux/rwbase_rt.h b/include/linux/rwbase_rt.h > index 1d264dd086250..b969b1d9bb85c 100644 > --- a/include/linux/rwbase_rt.h > +++ b/include/linux/rwbase_rt.h > @@ -10,12 +10,14 @@ > > struct rwbase_rt { > atomic_t readers; > + unsigned long waiter_timeout; I'm still not convinced that this timeout has any value and if it has then it should be clearly named writer_timeout because that's what it is about. The only reason for this timeout I saw so far is: > +/* > + * Allow reader bias with a pending writer for a minimum of 4ms or 1 tick. This > + * matches RWSEM_WAIT_TIMEOUT for the generic RWSEM implementation. Clearly RT and !RT have completely different implementations and behaviour vs. rwsems and rwlocks. Just because !RT has a timeout does not make a good argument. Just for the record: !RT has the timeout applicable in both directions to prevent writer bias via lock stealing. That's not a problem for RT because? Can we finally get a proper justification for this? > @@ -264,12 +285,20 @@ static int __sched rwbase_write_lock(struct rwbase_rt *rwb, > if (__rwbase_write_trylock(rwb)) > break; > > + /* > + * Record timeout when reader bias is ignored. Ensure timeout > + * is at least 1 in case of overflow. > + */ > + rwb->waiter_timeout = (jiffies + RWBASE_RT_WAIT_TIMEOUT) | 1; > + So this has two sillies: 1) It resets the timeout once per loop which is plain wrong 2) The "| 1" is really a sloppy hack Why not doing the obvious: static bool __sched rwbase_allow_reader_bias(struct rwbase_rt *rwb) { int r = atomic_read(&rwb->readers); if (likely(r < 0)) return true; if (r == WRITER_BIAS) return false; /* Allow reader bias unless the writer timeout has expired. */ return time_before(jiffies, rwb->writer_timeout); } and with that the "| 1" and all the rwb->timeout = 0 nonsense simply goes away and rwbase_read_lock() becomes: if (rwbase_allow_reader_bias(rwb)) { // fastpath atomic_inc(&rwb->readers); raw_spin_unlock_irq(&rtm->wait_lock); return 0; } // slowpath and the writelock slowpath has: rwb->writer_timeout = jiffies + RWBASE_RT_WAIT_TIMEOUT; for (;;) { .... No? Thanks, tglx