Hello Jordan, IMHO this is because the non-RT Tasks uses the same CPU and therefore the same cache. Especially when your CPU has hyperthreading also the L1-Cache is shared between RT and non-RT. Try using different CPUs for RT and non-RT tasks und disable hyperthreading (in the bios). @all: When I'm not correct, I would be very pleased if somebody let me know about this. Best regards Andreas -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: linux-rt-users-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:linux-rt-users-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Jordan Palacios Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Mai 2018 12:00 An: linux-rt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Betreff: Non RT threads impact on RT thread Hello, We are currently running a version of the linux kernel (3.18.24) with the RT-PREEMPT patch. In our system there are several non RT tasks and one RT task. The RT process runs in the FIFO scheduler with 95 priority and a control loop of 1ms. We have achieved latencies of about 5us which are perfect for us. Our issue is that the RT task sometimes misses one of its cycles due to an unexpected very long execution time of its control loop. In our system this is a critical failure. We enabled tracing in the kernel and started measuring the execution time of the RT thread. The execution time is quite constant (about 200us), which random spikes every now and then. Thing is, the less non RT tasks running in the system the better the RT task behaves. We wrote a very simple RT application that does some light work and writes its execution time using the trace_marker. Execution time is constant but IO intensive stuff, like a stress --io 32 or a hdparm, will have and impact on its execution time. This is surprising because the test does not any kind of work related to IO. Nor does the RT task in our system for that matter. Our question is: Is this behaviour normal? Why are non RT tasks affecting the RT task performance? Is there any other kind of test that we could run that would shed some light on this issue? Thanks in advance. Jordan. #include <limits.h> #include <pthread.h> #include <sched.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> #include <sys/mman.h> #include <sys/types.h> #include <sys/syscall.h> #include <sys/stat.h> #include <fcntl.h> #include <sstream> #include <math.h> #include <unistd.h> #include <stdarg.h> typedef long long NANO_TIME; typedef struct timespec TIME_SPEC; static const long int INTERVAL = 1000000LL; // 1ms static TIME_SPEC nano2timespec(NANO_TIME hrt) { TIME_SPEC timevl; timevl.tv_sec = hrt / 1000000000LL; timevl.tv_nsec = hrt % 1000000000LL; return timevl; } static double to_us(NANO_TIME ns) { return static_cast<double>(ns) / 1000.0; } static NANO_TIME get_time_ns(void) { TIME_SPEC tv; clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, &tv); return NANO_TIME(tv.tv_sec) * 1000000000LL + NANO_TIME(tv.tv_nsec); } static const unsigned int WORK_SIZE = 10000; void do_work() { unsigned int i = 0; double aux = 2; // do some stuff to use cpu while (i < WORK_SIZE) { aux = pow(aux, i); ++i; } } int trace_fd = -1; void trace_write(const char* fmt, ...) { va_list ap; char buf[256]; int n; if (trace_fd < 0) return; va_start(ap, fmt); n = vsnprintf(buf, 256, fmt, ap); va_end(ap); write(trace_fd, buf, n); } void* thread_func(void* /*data*/) { pid_t tid = syscall(__NR_gettid); printf("pthread joined. TID %i \n", tid); TIME_SPEC ts_next; NANO_TIME wake, init, after_work; wake = get_time_ns() + INTERVAL; ts_next = nano2timespec(wake); while (true) { init = get_time_ns(); if (init < wake) { do_work(); after_work = get_time_ns(); const double exec_time = to_us(after_work - init); trace_write("rt_test_exec_time - %f", exec_time); } else { printf("overrun detected\n"); } clock_nanosleep(CLOCK_REALTIME, TIMER_ABSTIME, &(ts_next), NULL); wake = wake + INTERVAL; ts_next = nano2timespec(wake); } return NULL; } int main(int /*argc*/, char* /*argv*/[]) { struct sched_param param; pthread_attr_t attr; pthread_t thread; int ret; /* Lock memory */ if (mlockall(MCL_CURRENT | MCL_FUTURE) == -1) { printf("mlockall failed: %m\n"); exit(-2); } /* Allocate all the memory required by the process */ if (!malloc(100 * 1048576)) // 100MB { printf("malloc failed\n"); exit(-3); } /* Initialize pthread attributes (default values) */ ret = pthread_attr_init(&attr); if (ret) { printf("init pthread attributes failed\n"); return ret; } /* Set a specific stack size */ ret = pthread_attr_setstacksize(&attr, PTHREAD_STACK_MIN * 100); if (ret) { printf("pthread setstacksize failed\n"); return ret; } /* Set scheduler policy and priority of pthread */ ret = pthread_attr_setschedpolicy(&attr, SCHED_FIFO); if (ret) { printf("pthread setschedpolicy failed\n"); return ret; } param.sched_priority = 95; ret = pthread_attr_setschedparam(&attr, ¶m); if (ret) { printf("pthread setschedparam failed\n"); return ret; } /* Use scheduling parameters of attr */ ret = pthread_attr_setinheritsched(&attr, PTHREAD_EXPLICIT_SCHED); if (ret) { printf("pthread setinheritsched failed\n"); return ret; } /* Create a pthread with specified attributes */ ret = pthread_create(&thread, &attr, thread_func, NULL); if (ret) { printf("create pthread failed\n"); return ret; } /* Open tracer_marker */ trace_fd = open("/tracing/trace_marker", O_WRONLY); if (trace_fd == -1) { printf("trace_marker open failed\n"); return ret; } system("echo 1 > /tracing/tracing_on"); // enable tracing system("echo nop > /tracing/current_tracer"); // reset trace system("echo function > /tracing/current_tracer"); // use function tracer system("echo 1 > /tracing/events/enable"); // enable all events /* Join the thread and wait until it is done */ ret = pthread_join(thread, NULL); if (ret) printf("join pthread failed: %m\n"); system("echo 0 > /tracing/tracing_on"); // disable tracing system("echo 0 > /tracing/events/enable"); // disable all events return ret; } -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-rt-users" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Registergericht: Traunstein / Registry Court: HRB 275 - Sitz / Head Office: Traunreut Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender / Chairman of Supervisory Board: Rainer Burkhard Geschäftsführung / Management Board: Thomas Sesselmann (Vorsitzender / Chairman), Hubert Ermer, Michael Grimm, Lutz Rissing E-Mail Haftungsausschluss / E-Mail Disclaimer: http://www.heidenhain.de/disclaimer ��.n��������+%������w��{.n�����{�����ǫ���ܨ}���Ơz�j:+v�����w����ޙ��&�)ߡ�a����z�ޗ���ݢj��w�f
